Posted on 12/05/2016 3:37:31 AM PST by Freelance Warrior
On an individual basis, they are not all that good. In a large concentration they can be effective because their goal is to overpower, and they care not a whit about suffering casualties. They also have so pretty big, and some pretty good toys. So, they are to be taken seriously, but not to be particularly feared.
“The Russian MoD as well as the Russian President’s spokesman have confirmed the loss and its circumstances.”
According to Jane’s the loss was two weeks ago. The article was on FR yesterday.
On an individual basis, they are not all that good. In a large concentration they can be effective because their goal is to overpower, and they care not a whit about suffering casualties. They also have some pretty big, and some pretty good toys. So, they are to be taken seriously, but not to be particularly feared.
What is the rate of acidents per trap on the Russian boat vs any US carrier?
The cost of the aircraft will come out of the pilot’s pay...
That’s why he captain goes down with the ship.
“...because the cable of the stopping device broke”
Does that happen often?
Don’t US carriers have more than one cable...if one broke, would the hook just find the next one?
“The plane should have stayed on land”
And the carrier.
I noticed the Ruskies said “His life is not in danger”.
That may be different than ‘ok’, in propaganda speak.
Jane must have reported the first loss, of a MiG-29. The recent one is of a Su-33. How many lost planes did they reported two weeks ago?
They’re two different events. Two planes have now gone down from the carrier.
“How many lost planes did they reported two weeks ago?”
Total of two. Same types as listed here. I think we’re talking about the same crashes for the same reasons but the timing seems off. (Unless I just remember the article incorrectly.)
Well, it’s, of course, probable.
Russia trying to do in 20 years what it took the U.S. 110 years to accomplish. Good luck, knuckleheads.
Well, a Russian carrier is taking part in combat for the fist time in hisory.
I know nothing about arresting gear cable. But, common sense tells me there must be some shock absorbing feature built into the arresting gear that would allow for a few feet of restrained travel before halting the aircraft. Without such a feature, the aircraft could be torn apart, or the cable itself broken. If true, this would equate to poor design
I think it’s a toss up as to what happened, which could include faulty cable, mechanical malfunction, poor design, lack of maintenance to name a few.
As an old Naval Aviator with over 3000 traps, I know a bit about the arresting gear.
Below decks there are two massive wheel like devices onto each is wound many feet of cable, they have hydraulic brakes . These cables are routed topsides through pulleys and fair leads and terminate at a quick release unions that the actual arresting cable is strung across the deck (Cross deck Pendants.
These are Pendants are made of 1 inch (25 mm), 1-1/4 (32 mm) inch or 1-3/8 inch (35mm) diameter wire rope. Each wire rope is made up of numerous strands twisted about an oiled hemp center core, which provides a “cushion” for each strand and also supplies cable lubrication.
When a landing aircraft engages a deck pendant, the force of the forward motion of the landing aircraft is transferred to a purchase cable which is routed via sheaves to the arresting engine, located in a machinery room below the flight deck .
As the deck pendant and the purchase cable are pulled out by the aircraft being arrested, the kinetic energy of the aircraft is transferred to mechanical energy of the cables, and the arresting engine transfers the mechanical energy of the cables to hydraulic energy. The arresting engine brings about a smooth, controlled stop of the landing aircraft.
Most failures are to the cross deck pendants which are designed to be replaced relatively quickly
The designers of such a system must have been just brilliant.
Yes, I’ve already seen this. The land-based squadrons perform far better, though.
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