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Green Party drops PA case, plans to go federal
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | December 3, 2016 | Marc Levy / Associated Press

Posted on 12/04/2016 1:06:55 AM PST by tank_sherman

HARRISBURG, Pa. — Green Party-backed voters dropped a court case Saturday night that had sought to force a statewide recount of Pennsylvania’s Nov. 8 presidential election, won by Republican Donald Trump, in what Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein had framed as an effort to explore whether voting machines and systems had been hacked and the election result manipulated.

But later Saturday night, the party announced it’ll go to federal court instead. A statement from the lead lawyer for the recount campaign says it’ll seek an emergency federal court order for the recount. It says barriers to a recount in Pennsylvania are pervasive and the state court system isn’t equipped to address them.

(Excerpt) Read more at post-gazette.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2016recount; donaldtrump; greenparty; jillstein; pa2016; pennsylvania; recount; stein; trump
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To: RightInTheMain

If it was that easy then why hasn’t it been done before? It would have much easier to accomplish this in closer elections like 2000 or 2004, no?


121 posted on 12/04/2016 7:13:51 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: eaglestar

Somewhere some deranged person is thinking wouldn’t it be funny to toss Stein in a van, drive to ND, and then drop her off in the middle of the state and half block from a police department and then place a call to 911.


122 posted on 12/04/2016 7:14:54 AM PST by RightInTheMain
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To: Alberta's Child

Ok, but the discussion on this thread is about the 22K net increase in votes Hillary got through provisional votes in PA. That’s why I’m focusing on that particular process.


123 posted on 12/04/2016 7:19:24 AM PST by shhrubbery! (NIH!)
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To: Alberta's Child

Well it’s a theory of course but it’s not easy what they are trying to pull off and there are significant risks which is why it’s being done by proxy. Perhaps 3rd parties were unwilling after those elections or they didn’t see a path thru the courts that made it viable. You also have to consider we have different players here on the losing side - I believe the Clinton / Obama team is much more willing to take risks to advance or protect their perceived causes.


124 posted on 12/04/2016 7:20:48 AM PST by RightInTheMain
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To: tank_sherman
Wow...must be nice to have thousands upon thousands of dollars to just p*ss away.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho! God Bless Texas!

125 posted on 12/04/2016 7:24:31 AM PST by wku man (Just One Gun, the latest from 10 Pound Test - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6uFqQenIU4)
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To: RightInTheMain
Well it’s a theory of course but it’s not easy what they are trying to pull off and there are significant risks which is why it’s being done by proxy.

Actually, I would think the opposite is true. Casting a provisional ballot subjects it to a level of scrutiny that isn't given to a normal vote that you cast just by showing up on Election Day and voting like most people do.

126 posted on 12/04/2016 7:28:47 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: shhrubbery!
Right -- I understand.

My point is that the potential for election fraud is highest BEFORE Election Day when people can fraudulently register, and diminishes as time goes on from Election Day to the final certification of the votes.

127 posted on 12/04/2016 7:30:08 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Yo, bartender -- Jobu needs a refill!")
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To: tank_sherman

1 Corinthians 14:33 (a)(NIV) “For God is not a God of disorder but of peace...” Lord, we pray that you would quickly put an end to Dr. Stein’s efforts to sow chaos and disorder...


128 posted on 12/04/2016 7:30:32 AM PST by East Tennessee Redhead
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To: Enlightened1

Revolution may be the only way to get rid of the crazy leftist fascists.


129 posted on 12/04/2016 7:32:30 AM PST by Lopeover (The 2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States!)
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To: xzins

Absolutely, that’s why the PA effort folded as soon as the first court date came up. This “going federal” thing is just a way to buy more time. The same thing will happen at the federal level.


130 posted on 12/04/2016 7:35:20 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: eaglestar

LOL

Some of those CIA “patriots” we heard about during the Comey kerfuffle should run a little operation, nab Jill, drug her up a little, and deposit her as a “missing person” in the Police HQ in Bismarck. That would be damned funny.


131 posted on 12/04/2016 7:38:03 AM PST by Scott from the Left Coast ("Now it's up to the American people to deliver justice")
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To: tank_sherman

A tool (and fool) being used by the communists.


132 posted on 12/04/2016 7:52:25 AM PST by wastedyears (Clinton's supporters crying is the best thing ever..)
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To: billyboy15
They are absentee and provisional ballots and their existence has been known since the count started.

You are correct but it must be pointed out that absentee ballots and provisional ballots are one of the prime areas of voter fraud. That is where the dead and illegals have a tendency to vote.

133 posted on 12/04/2016 7:56:46 AM PST by cpdiii (DECKHAND, ROUGHNECK, GEOLOGIST, PILOT, PHARMACIST, LIBERTARIAN The Constitution is worth dying for.)
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To: tank_sherman

They must have ran out of bribe money.


134 posted on 12/04/2016 7:57:51 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacted the most.)
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To: Eleutheria5

I’ll take Freddy over Stein and Hillary any day. At least Freddy uses sarcasm


135 posted on 12/04/2016 8:01:04 AM PST by reaganaut (Yes I am female, yes I love guns, yes I carry and yes I reload and handload my own ammo.)
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To: broken_arrow1

Obama can’t stay in office. Congress would decide on the off chance they managed to get Trump to lose 36 EV. Clinton won’t win, worst case is the GOP Congress would give it to an Establishment guy and that is highly unlikely.

IMO, their goal is to make enough noise to get the sheep to consider Trump an illegitimate president just like they did with Bush 43.


136 posted on 12/04/2016 8:04:24 AM PST by reaganaut (Yes I am female, yes I love guns, yes I carry and yes I reload and handload my own ammo.)
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To: Vigilanteman

Jill Stein is doing a targeted strategy to prompt individual Pennsylvania counties to conduct recounts. Voluntary revisions from various counties in the state have already shaved more than 23,000 votes off Donald Trump’s statewide lead. If it falls by another roughly 20,000 votes due to local recounts, then Pennsylvania state law will force an automatic statewide recount. I heard the illegal counting is still going on & no one is doing anything about it.


137 posted on 12/04/2016 8:11:58 AM PST by DvdMom
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To: Enlightened1
Yep I’m. beginning to think users like FredZarguna and Billyboy15 want a bloodbath in this country. I dont think I have ever called anyone on FR an idiot before. But you are tempting.
138 posted on 12/04/2016 8:13:47 AM PST by Paradox ("Wishing for a tautology to enact itself is not a strategy.")
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To: RightInTheMain

I don’t know what the point really is. I don’t think the delay tactic is viable. Please do a user search for LS. Much more reliable source than I am, but he will tell you this won’t work.


139 posted on 12/04/2016 8:16:03 AM PST by cmt21
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To: Alberta's Child
In many cases a provisional voter is one who is legally registered to vote but goes to the wrong precinct and therefore doesn’t show up in those voter records. They don’t have to visit every one of these people to verify where they live. They just take a ballot from a person who lives in Precinct A and voted in Precinct B, and verify that they are legally registered in Precinct A.

In our area of New Mexico, precinct only matters for local races (i.e. city or county races). Your name and precinct are in the computer which is county wide so you can vote at any one of several convenience locations. When you check in, they print a ballot relevant to your precinct, you darken your candidate choice and insert it into a machine. Of course the paper ballots are available for a hand recount if necessary.

My neighbor told me that at her voting location a Hispanic woman who didn't speak much English tried to vote but was not registered. She was told very politely she couldn't this time, but she was given a voter registration card and informed if she filled it out, she could vote next time.

But we are a Republican area; if we were a Democrate location, they very likely would have given her a ballot anyway.

140 posted on 12/04/2016 8:28:53 AM PST by CedarDave (Proud member of Hillary's Deplorables class of 2016.)
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