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To: EveningStar

There were many illegals who actually voted, however it is difficult if not impossible to verify the 3 million figure.


2 posted on 11/28/2016 11:30:05 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
There were many illegals who actually voted, however it is difficult if not impossible to verify the 3 million figure.

Agreed. And I seriously doubt that it was in the millions. That's for conspiracy theorists.

8 posted on 11/28/2016 11:35:29 AM PST by EveningStar
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To: SeekAndFind

So let’s go ahead, do the work, and figure out how many dead people and illegals are registered to vote. Don’t worry Jill Stein will pay for it.


11 posted on 11/28/2016 11:35:59 AM PST by thorvaldr
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To: SeekAndFind

One is too many...when you consider that not a single US citizen can or would vote in any election other than an an American one


18 posted on 11/28/2016 11:47:25 AM PST by SMARTY ("What is freedom? To have the will to be responsible for one's self. "M. Stirner)
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To: SeekAndFind
Probably closer than not to 3 mil IMO.

I watched them flood our Arizona school district using P.O. boxes in border towns as US addresses. Once they have a US mailing address and something like a utility bill with a US address, they are considered residents for the purposes of the school district and other government benefits admistered by the state and municipalities.

Only problem with that is that many "families" used the same PO box but no one in the govt chooses to pursue that.

This kind of fraud is close enough to let me believe it can easily be extended into voting rights particularly with states that have motor voter laws wnere they cannot or do not verify citizenship with the drivers license application.

26 posted on 11/28/2016 12:09:57 PM PST by pfflier
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To: SeekAndFind

Where would the difficulty come from? Matching up the voter rolls and the number that voted? Doesn’t seem too hard to me. Time consuming? Yes.

How hard is it to see fraud when you have more people voting in a precinct than are registered to vote in it?

Apparently, a significant portion, if I read the article correctly, of hillary’s popular vote lead comes from LA county. I’m pretty sure that there are no checks to see if a person is legally allowed to vote anywhere in LA county. Will that make up the 3 million? No. But, lets just say that it accounts for 500,000, out of the 18 million that are reported to live there. That means that the rest of the country only has to come up with the remainder. Toss in Chicago, NYC, and other places and I’d be willing to bet that getting 3 million wouldn’t be all that hard.

Just look at all the court proceedings, leading up to the election, where Voter ID laws were getting tossed. Those weren’t done to make the voting process more honest and fraud proof.


29 posted on 11/28/2016 12:23:40 PM PST by qaz123
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To: SeekAndFind

IF anyone had the resources & the GUTS to verify every registered voter in Los Angeles County & in Clark County, Nevada against citizenship records & against the polling records of who came in & voted or who voted absentee, I think the number would be closer to 9 or 10million.

For those of you who haven’t lived where there are many illegals, you don’t understand the numbers of those people who are invading our country. When HOME DEPOT erects ‘shelters in the middle of their crowded parking lots’ to give shelter to those illegals who are accosting people in that business parking lot for CASH day work, there is a problem. When garages have been converted to ‘living quarters’ in many places in Los Angeles....that is a problem...

When the gang members caught & incarcerated in Los Angeles County are unable to prove they are citizens of the USA.....

When the borders are so porous that no one is kept out-—or, at best, the Border Patrol states that they are ONLY catching 1 in 10 & then proudly state that they caught 43,000 last year...That means that 430,000 tried to come in??? We have a problem....

When photos are taken of illegals riding on the top of freight cars into the USA unfettered-—we have a problem

When you take the time to go into any classroom in any Los Angeles County school & see the kids that are there & WHY those classrooms all need an ESL teacher along with the regular teacher....we have a problem...

When diseases that the US eradicated years ago come back & turn into an epidemic like measles did a couple of years ago in Calif—we have a problem. These invaders are NOT being examined for health.

When you realize that Los Angeles county was printing sample ballots & voting ballots in over 60 languages & dialects when I moved from there in 1993..we have a problem.

IF YOU cannot read English—you cannot possible be an informed voter!!!.....

I would be happy to apologize openly IF anyone can prove that ONLY 3 million illegals voted...I think it is much higher than that...

When a camper/hiker/rider cannot safely go into a National Forest because of the illegals growing marijuana there—we have a problem.....

When the Sheriff’s deputies are too afraid for their own safety to enter those hidden growing groves...we have a problem.....

IRS & Social Security Administration ADMIT that there are 1.1 MILLION ++ people in this country using the identity of the real person that owns that identity. BUT—the IRS REFUSES to NOTIFY those whose ID is being used fraudulently....WHY? IF MY ID is being used in a criminal fashion—I HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW......So DO YOU....WE ALL DO..

When the IRS fights Congress about the fact that ILLEGALS are filing a ‘tax return’ when they paid either NO tax or VERY LITTLE tax & they are filing PAID to them-—and they haven’t paid in anything near that to get the EARNED INCOME CREDIT of $4300 paid to them by check from the IRS...we have a problem... Congress needs to pass a clearer law about people getting paid the Earned Income Credit money. That is a serious drain on Tax Payers....

I was a payroll supervisor for a large agricultural operation. I processed W-4’s & found many employees hired at the ranches that reported S-9 and that would leave them NOT paying any Fed or state income taxes with their earnings. I demanded more info about how a 19 y/o could have 9 deductions/exemptions & the ranch manager told me he was sending money back to Mexico, etc. I explained to him that the IRS codes clearly state that ANY exemption for a wage earner could not live out of the borders of the USA. Changed a number of those W-4’s to S-1 with new paper work from the ranch manager.

In those days, the quarterly Federal Payroll form 941 was detailed & showed the name & soc sec number of everyone who got money that quarter. It would take the IRS up to 18 months to inform the employer that here is a list of NON-Matching names/ soc sec numbers.

I would call the ranch manager. Either the person had already quit about 2 months ago, or within 2 days, I would get a W-4 with the same number, but with a different name. LOPEZ-GARCIA would suddenly become GARCIA-LOPEZ. It would take another 18 months or so for that combination to bounce... What a headache that all was. All of this was about 1978.

IMO, the current voting rolls need to be frozen, archived & every single county in the USA —3144 of them—need to start over & get ONLY those who are eligible registered. Such registration to be done ONLY by County Employees & they have to sign the paperwork. Someone needs to be accountable.

PHOTO VOTER ID needs to be nationwide-—not just a few states. NO exceptions.

This isn’t a secret to the counties. I think they get paid PER person on the voting rolls by the FEDS to help offset election costs. Soooo—there is no incentive for the counties to clean up & reduce their voting rolls.

Law & Order has to come to this particular part of the American fabric. Sooner rather than later.

Legitimate voters have a right to not have their efforts diluted or flipped because of illegals voters.


39 posted on 11/28/2016 4:05:33 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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