Posted on 11/28/2016 9:48:58 AM PST by doug from upland
So that we do not miss important info on dozens of separate threads, bring your info and updates here so we can all keep track of what is happening.
Good afternoon, I hope you are doing well.
I just want to bump the thread by saying Mr. Trump will be the 45th president of the United States.
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Children cry. That should not be grounds for a putdown. I’d rather see severl adults, several genders, blubbering and weeping. That’s what’s REALLY going on here.
Hi.
“Only the precincts where they can stuff more ballots will be counted.”
Gore v Bush December 2000 is stare decis.
Ask FChuck Schumer, he quotes it all the time.
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That is good news.
I’m figuring that means a big red REJECTED stamp will be smacked onto her cobbled-together petition for a PA recount.
That’s interesting: 3% of the Philly precincts to be recounted. Since they were probably 90% for Hillary, they’d have to find a lot of new votes to have any impact. There aren’t enough votes to flip in the sample to make any difference.
But, I suppose the rationale would be to extend the count state-wide if those 3% show significant movement. An interesting strategy if planned in advance.
It is hard to believe anything but that Stein is simply the designated boob for building another slush fund, or money pit, for leftist causes— which will be used mainly to rid the US coasts of the dreaded Electoral College, particularly in Fly Over Country, which brings some balance to their best interests rather than the otherwise guaranteed popular vote of the incomparable coastal mega-populations.
*It has just occurred to me that the Left may prefer that some other Democrat cabal than the stinking Clintons need to start developing a bank roll of their own for a new war chest, one that is finally quite separate from the Clinton’s and their sticky fingers.
I believe we are going to find out how despised Hillary Clinton is, by the Democrat grunts whose back she rode in on.
I realize Stein is Libertarian, but that has never stopped Leftists from moving in.
Keep up the good work there Jill. Philadelphia precincts, yeah those are the ones where you’re going to find a lot of fake votes for Trump. Sheesh.
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Wisconsin says it will start recount on Thursday if Jill pays. 72 counties not required to hand count but they may if they like.
Agree re smelling the sewage, those manufactured post-election votes Demonrats are so famous for gave Kennedy the win over Nixon. Never take anything for granted when Rats are involved. Especially not “the rules.”
I think you have a misplaced faith in the courts, especially SCOTUS with Scalia gone.
More details about WI recount from CNN
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/28/politics/wisconsin-recount/index.html
Doing it quickly, to meet the deadline & no hand recounts.
Can’t they arrest Jill Stein on her outstanding arrest warrant and extradite her to North Dakota? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3498773/posts
Wisconsin Elections Commission unanimously okays timeline for presidential recount
MADISON — The Wisconsin Elections Commission has unanimously
approved a timeline for the presidential vote recount in the state.
Here’s a look at what was established on Monday morning, November 28th:
•4:30 p.m. Monday: Wisconsin Elections Commission will provide estimated recount
fee to the petitioning candidates. (A preliminary estimate is around $1.1 million.)
•4:30 p.m. Tuesday: Petitioning candidates must pay recount
fee in full.
•10 a.m. Wednesday: Elections Commission will hold a
teleconference with clerks about the recount process.
•Thursday, Dec. 1: Commission wants the recount to begin
in all 72 counties.
•Monday, Dec. 12: Commission wants county clerks to submit
recount results by 8:00 p.m.
•Tuesday, Dec. 13: Commission will meet to certify results
by federally mandated deadline.
As of now, county clerks are allowed to conduct recount by hand or by machine. That would
change only if a judge orders clerks to hand-count all ballots.
Article and comments
NOTE: I AM WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM THE WISCONSIN SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OFFICE. I asked them if the state legislature has the power to meet and decide on awarding electors if recount is not finished in time. During the 2000 recount, I spoke with the Florida Speaker of the House office. They were prepared to call a special session to award the electors to Bush. Florida state legislature was controlled by GOP in 2000. Wisconsin is currently controlled by GOP. The Speaker is a Republican.
Appointment by state legislature
In the earliest presidential elections, state legislative choice was the most common method of choosing electors. A majority of the states selected presidential electors by legislation in both 1792 (9 of 15) and 1800 (10 of 16), and half of the states did so in 1812.[69] Even in the 1824 election, a quarter of states (6 of 24) chose electors by legislation. In that election, Andrew Jackson lost in spite of having pluralities of both the popular and electoral votes,[70] with the outcome being decided by the six state legislatures choosing the electors. Some state legislatures simply chose electors, while other states used a hybrid method in which state legislatures chose from a group of electors elected by popular vote.[71] By 1828, with the rise of Jacksonian democracy, only Delaware and South Carolina used legislative choice.[70] Delaware ended its practice the following election (1832), while South Carolina continued using the method until it seceded from the Union in December 1860.[70] South Carolina used the popular vote for the first time in the 1868 election.[72]
Excluding South Carolina, legislative appointment was used in only four situations after 1832:
In 1848, Massachusetts statute awarded the state’s electoral votes to the winner of the at-large popular vote, but only if that candidate won an absolute majority. When the vote produced no winner between the Democratic, Free Soil, and Whig parties, the state legislature selected the electors, giving all 12 electoral votes to the Whigs.[73]
In 1864, Nevada, having joined the Union only a few days prior to Election Day, had no choice but to appoint.[73]
In 1868, the newly reconstructed state of Florida appointed its electors, having been readmitted too late to hold elections.[73]
Finally, in 1876, the legislature of the newly admitted state of Colorado used legislative choice due to a lack of time and money to hold a popular election.[73]
Legislative appointment was brandished as a possibility in the 2000 election. Had the recount continued, the Florida legislature was prepared to appoint the Republican slate of electors to avoid missing the federal safe-harbor deadline for choosing electors.[74]
The Constitution gives each state legislature the power to decide how its state’s electors are chosen[70] and it can be easier and cheaper for a state legislature to simply appoint a slate of electors than to create a legislative framework for holding elections to determine the electors. As noted above, the two situations in which legislative choice has been used since the Civil War have both been because there was not enough time or money to prepare for an election. However, appointment by state legislature can have negative consequences: bicameral legislatures can deadlock more easily than the electorate. This is precisely what happened to New York in 1789 when the legislature failed to appoint any electors.[75]
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