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Oops! Jill Stein Cannot File Direct Request for Recount in Pennsylvania, Must Take It to Court
Gateway Pundit ^ | 11/26/2016 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 11/27/2016 8:15:02 AM PST by GilGil

Per Pennsylvania regulations, there is only one way remaining for Jill Stein to get a recount in Pennsylvania and it is a complicated process. BillyPenn reports that Stein would have to file for a court appeal and present a “prima facie case” showing that voter fraud took place. While prima facie has a lower burden of proof threshold than “beyond reasonable doubt,” it is still significant. Stein would have to prove in court that fraud was “probable.” This is going to be very difficult given that even the computer specialists recommending the recount say there is no proof of hacking or fraud...

Jill Stein would have to present evidence of fraud or systematic error in every MI county to initiate a statewide recount. It's a pipe dream pic.twitter.com/q19r9THelr

— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) November 26, 2016

Stein has to prove that fraud took place:

In addition to submitting the petition, Stein must demonstrate that "a mistake or fraud has been committed. She has not yet done so.

(Excerpt) Read more at thegatewaypundit.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2016; 2016parecount; 2016recount; clinton; election; greenparty; lawsuit; pa2016; recount; steinrecount; trump
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To: GilGil

This was never about recounts. It is all just to keep the sheeple stirred up.


61 posted on 11/27/2016 9:32:48 AM PST by 48th SPS Crusader (I am an American. Not a Republican or a Democrat)
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To: 48th SPS Crusader

This was never about recounts. It is all just to keep the sheeple stirred up.

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Finally some sanity! Totally agree.


62 posted on 11/27/2016 9:33:41 AM PST by GilGil (E. Deplorabus Unum)
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To: Emergencyawesome

I could have sworn your sign up date was 11/06/16.


63 posted on 11/27/2016 9:34:07 AM PST by healy61
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To: GilGil

Let’s see, the deadline is Monday?, we’ll schedule the hearing for Friday. See you then Jill!


64 posted on 11/27/2016 9:41:51 AM PST by mistfree (It's a very uncreative man who can't think of more than one way to spell a word.)
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To: GilGil
For this ball to start rolling Stein has to write out a $5 million check. Nothing will move if money does not get paid and it has not.

Yes, I saw your post about that on another thread. I agree - nothing is going to move until she pays the money to start the process.

Last I saw, the state of Wisconsin was still coming up with a dollar figure to charge her. It's my guess, the money will be paid, once the amount is known.

65 posted on 11/27/2016 9:48:43 AM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Oh I like your idea! It’s the only one that explains why anyone would want to recount Wisconsin.


66 posted on 11/27/2016 9:52:03 AM PST by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: Emergencyawesome

When will Jill close on her new beach house?


67 posted on 11/27/2016 10:02:02 AM PST by ptsal
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To: GilGil

“Stein walks away with $5-10 million...”

What would the tax bill be on that amount?


68 posted on 11/27/2016 10:02:40 AM PST by beelzepug (For English press #1; for Spanish, learn English and press #1)
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To: GilGil
... Well ..... I personally think this whole event is taking place as a STALL TACTIC to delete the electoral votes of those states in question. I don't think Jill and Co. actually intend to complete the recount. All they have to do is to stall.

... If I am not mistaken, I believe that If the Recount goes past the Dec 19th electoral vote .... Then the States Electoral votes would not be counted in this election and would become null and void and deleted from the electoral count. This would change the results of the election.

.... In the end we'd probably end up with a situation similar to 1876, when both Democratic and Republican electors submitted competing electoral votes from three states, and Congress had to decide which set to accept. Congress is controlled by Republicans, so guess what they would decide.

.... Either way, whoever did take office would be seriously damaged by the process.

69 posted on 11/27/2016 10:24:44 AM PST by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: Tallguy

Trump still wins the Presidency if the electoral votes of MI, PA and WI do not get counted. Per the 12th amendment, the majority electoral college vote number would be adjusted downwards. The total number of appointed electoral college votes would change from 538 to 492 if all three states electors are unable to cast their ballots due to court disputes.

The number of EV’s required to win the presidency would change from 270 to 247. As of right now, without these three states, Trump has 260 EV’s - Hildebeast has 232 EV’s, a 28 EV lead. Trump still wins the EC majority by 13 if all three states electors are unable to cast their ballots

Only way Hildebeast steals this is if she somehow is able to steal PA + either WI or MI. Then she would have to block the 3rd state from casting its EC votes to narrowly win the EC majority. Stealing WI + MI (26 EV’s) and blocking PA still leaves her 2EV’s behind Trump and he would win EC by one vote.

She will not likely be able to steal any state in the recounts - most likely she could hope to deny their electors from voting for Trump but like I pointed out, it would not stop Trump from winning the presidency.


70 posted on 11/27/2016 10:29:51 AM PST by dsm69 (Boycott News Media/Hollywood Advertisers)
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To: GilGil

My belief is that Hillary put Stein up to this, has a legal strategy in mind, has prearranged lawyers and activists to carry it out, and arranged for Stein’s funding via Hillary’s investors. At minimum she wants to cast doubt on Trump’s victory, undermine his mandate, and promote a few more months of Democrat riots and whining. These keep her in the public eye, and makes her feel all better. She likely believes she will prevail and become President.

In PA, Jill Clinton need not pursue recounts in every county — indeed she probably wouldn’t want to. She’ll go after “recounts” in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, where her voter bases are centered, and the local apparatus, judges, etc., are sure to help her cheat. In all states, she will also shape the recounts to allow imaginary “judgement of voter intent” yet no examination of whether many voters were even legally eligible, or cast their own votes. This will not be a fair process. Trump needn’t panic, but Republicans had better fight as if this is a real threat.


71 posted on 11/27/2016 10:38:30 AM PST by Chewbarkah
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To: DaveA37; UB355; MinuteGal; LucyT

He doesn’t need to, just let Tom Fitton and others do the job !!!


72 posted on 11/27/2016 11:16:38 AM PST by danamco
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To: GilGil

In the Obama kakistocracy, “lawlessness” is the operative word.


73 posted on 11/27/2016 11:44:27 AM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: GilGil

This is interesting.

On Twitter, today 0hour1 posted:

“After we contact the #FEC Monday we will release a foreign donor list and reveal the foreign influence in the #Recount under law forbidden.”


74 posted on 11/27/2016 11:52:20 AM PST by pax_et_bonum (Never Forget the Seals of Extortion 17 - and God Bless America)
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To: Chewbarkah

Until the $5 million has been paid to do the recount, all deals are off.

As of now ZERO money has been paid to the states therefore there is no recount!


75 posted on 11/27/2016 12:06:33 PM PST by GilGil (E. Deplorabus Unum)
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To: GilGil

“The scam has already worked. She walks away with $5-10 million.”

Yes, but she didn’t scam the whole country, just her “own people!”


76 posted on 11/27/2016 12:36:38 PM PST by vette6387
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To: Starboard

“Not saying the recount will succeed, or that the Clintons will be back in the game quickly, but I wouldn’t say they are finished either. Just my humble opinion.”

How do two aging, unhealthy, slimy people “come back?” My bet is that they are either both dead or severely incapacitated before the next presidential election. Now they don’t have the controls of the party and the new people are going to take over. They will be lucky if someone doesn’t give them both a Polonium milkshake as payback for loosing after they were paid off.


77 posted on 11/27/2016 12:40:27 PM PST by vette6387
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To: ObozoMustGo2012

“While he’s at it, investigate and prosecute Stein for fraud...”

And force her to go back to North Dakota to face the charges filed against her for vandalizing a bulldozer at the oil pipeline project.


78 posted on 11/27/2016 12:45:22 PM PST by vette6387
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To: EQAndyBuzz

“No more playing around. Dismantle the entire leftwing by using their tactics against them.”

I believe that is Trump’s intention, and they know it full well. A last gasp before the consequences.


79 posted on 11/27/2016 12:46:26 PM PST by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: billyboy15

“the problem to date has been the unwillingness of the Republicans to stand up and FIGHT these bastards!”

And they are probably the only real problem facing President Trump.


80 posted on 11/27/2016 12:46:40 PM PST by vette6387
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