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To: Morpheus2009

“They are not willing to give up federal benefits, so they will not secede.”

Last time I checked, they get back less than they pay in taxes. Seceding would make that even better because the federal bureaucracy wouldn’t get its cut.

Everyone let California politicians know they would have more money to waste if they seceded and their cities could harbor as many illegals as they want.


11 posted on 11/23/2016 9:25:23 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: ModelBreaker

“Last time I checked, they get back less than they pay in taxes. Seceding would make that even better because the federal bureaucracy wouldn’t get its cut.”

Have you ever heard the saying: “Figures don’t lye but liars figure”?

The “California gets back less than it gives” is a prime example of that. The people saying it don’t include welfare benefits such as food stamps in those totals. Also remove the money generated from various military bases and the figure changes. California is actually one of the states most dependent upon the Feds. ESPECIALLY the coastal areas that want to secede. Split the state North to South at the edge of the mountains and the Western coastal areas receive huge subsidies.

California also depends on other states to produce electricity and provide them with water.

Where they might make some of that back is by gaining control of the lands administered by the Federal government that cannot currently be taxed


57 posted on 11/23/2016 11:56:05 PM PST by Fai Mao (PIAPS for Prison 2016)
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To: ModelBreaker

The problem here is that misery (certainly lefty misery) craves company.

California being lefty all by its solo self? There’s no fun in that. None at all! Gotta drag the whole rest of the country into it, kicking and screaming! (Which won’t happen now that Trump roolz.)

California lefties, denied all their former Federal tentacles by a yuge Trumpian swamp-draining that will depend on California about as much as his own election did, will mope... but they will be powerless.


58 posted on 11/23/2016 11:57:37 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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