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Trump terrifies public school advocates with education secretary pick
Washington Post ^ | November 23, 2016 | Valerie Strauss

Posted on 11/23/2016 9:01:23 PM PST by kevcol

Advocates of public education in the United States have worried that President-elect Donald Trump would tap an education secretary who would speed up the privatization of public schools, a move that many fear could destroy America’s public education system, the country’s most important civic institution. Well, they were right about the appointment — and then some.
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Seen by her supporters as a tireless, driven supporter of school choice, opponents say she is the most ideological and anti-public education nominee ever to be put forward to run the the nearly 40-year-old department.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: betsydevos; cabinet; devos; education; educationsecretary; publicschools; trump; trumpcabinet; trumpeducation; trumptransition; trumpwinsagain
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To: MNDude

The history is that when students get into good schools (using vouchers) they do well and do not bring down the school. The school brings them up. I can go along with truly private schools being exempt from vouchers, but students need to have the choice to select the best school that is within their travel range.

Or is this still allowing the riffraff too much leeway for you?


21 posted on 11/23/2016 9:31:01 PM PST by KC_for_Freedom (California engineer (ret) and ex-teacher (ret) now part time Professor (what do you know?))
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To: MNDude

In all seriousness, this is one area where conservatives don’t really understand the situation. Private schools, when they are better, are better because they can pick and choose which students they want. As vouchers make it more lucrative for them to take more students, they will start taking anyone because each warm body brings in money. Pretty soon, they will be pretty much like public schools. The problem really isn’t the teachers, or the curriculum, or how much money you spend. It’s the students, and the home culture they bring into the schools. If they have no respect for authority, no work ethic, and/or low intelligence, it doesn’t much matter who is teaching them or how they are teaching. The few hours a week you get with that kid in no way undoes what they have absorbed for years at home.


22 posted on 11/23/2016 9:31:17 PM PST by A_perfect_lady
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To: kevcol

Oh yeah it looks like he didn’t get the memo that it’s called the “Department of Teachers Unions Swamp Sustenance”


23 posted on 11/23/2016 9:37:37 PM PST by Degaston
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To: oldbrowser; All

JFK did a dictatorial executive order that unionized federal employees. JFK was a democrat and all are communists .FDR was a communist in the 1930’s we all know that .The media says JFK was a conservative . The media lies. All democrats are communists period. The media too are communists every one of them

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_10988

Executive Order 10988 is a United States presidential executive order issued by President John F. Kennedy on January 17, 1962 that recognized the right of federal employees to collective bargaining. This executive order was a breakthrough for public sector workers, who were not protected under the 1935 Wagner Act.


24 posted on 11/23/2016 9:37:50 PM PST by Democrat_media (President Trump has to change the 1965 immigration act so he can get a 2nd term)
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To: kevcol

Wapo doesn’t like it, then Trump hit another bullseye. Just don’t pick Romney for SOS!


25 posted on 11/23/2016 9:38:22 PM PST by pangaea6
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To: oldbrowser
Funny that you say the opposite of the truth. Guess you are parroting the media deification of their idol. No democrat JFK is just another commie.

JFK did a dictatorial executive order that unionized federal employees. JFK was a democrat and all are communists .FDR was a communist in the 1930’s we all know that .The media says JFK was a conservative . The media lies. All democrats are communists period. The media too are communists every one of them

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_10988

Executive Order 10988 is a United States presidential executive order issued by President John F. Kennedy on January 17, 1962 that recognized the right of federal employees to collective bargaining. This executive order was a breakthrough for public sector workers, who were not protected under the 1935 Wagner A

26 posted on 11/23/2016 9:41:48 PM PST by Democrat_media (President Trump has to change the 1965 immigration act so he can get a 2nd term)
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To: MNDude

because we’re sick and tired of subsidizing the public indoctrination system.


27 posted on 11/23/2016 9:45:19 PM PST by RC one (The 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances)
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To: kevcol

“the nearly 40-year-old department.”
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There’s the problem right there for ya. Been around for about 40 years too long!


28 posted on 11/23/2016 9:47:21 PM PST by LouieFisk
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To: kevcol

Literally everything which is taught in school can be accessed for free on YouTube.


29 posted on 11/23/2016 9:47:48 PM PST by VisualizeSmallerGovernment
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To: A_perfect_lady

If that is true then why do private schools outperform public schools in the inner city? It isn’t really close with the same kids and less money.

Pray America woke


30 posted on 11/23/2016 9:48:07 PM PST by bray (The Silent Majority ROARED)
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To: kevcol
a move that many fear could destroy America’s public education system, the country’s most important civic institution.

... which is doing such a bang-up job despite massive increases in funding (though never enough!) every year.

31 posted on 11/23/2016 9:49:21 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment
Government schools( “public schools”)have been hijacked by the far left (communists). What government schools teach is communism.

Government doesn't work. You can actually learn useful job skills on youtube. you send your kids to public Schools they are turned into leftists/communists and don't learn anything that is real.

Glad Trump will fix this too.

32 posted on 11/23/2016 9:51:17 PM PST by Democrat_media (President Trump has to change the 1965 immigration act so he can get a 2nd term)
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To: oldbrowser

“Didn’t JFK say that public sector unions were incompatible with government ?”
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I think you have in mind there is actually FDR,not JFK - oddly enough.
http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2011/02/18/the-first-blow-against-public-employees/fdr-warned-us-about-public-sector-unions
“The founders of the labor movement viewed unions as a vehicle to get workers more of the profits they help create. Government workers, however, don’t generate profits. They merely negotiate for more tax money. When government unions strike, they strike against taxpayers. F.D.R. considered this “unthinkable and intolerable.”


33 posted on 11/23/2016 9:52:17 PM PST by LouieFisk
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To: A_perfect_lady

Disagree. I have seen Catholic schools change lives of inner city youth because of faith formation and genuine care given to students of rough backgrounds

I also want to point out the increase of prevalence of mass shootings in upper middle class suburban school neighborhoods, the heroin/opiate epidemic in the northeast. Not to mention the antidepressant pharmaceutical culture invading the lives of the well-to-do, and the hyper extreme hazing of ivy league frat life.

All this to say: the formation of character is forged by a variety of complex factors.


34 posted on 11/23/2016 9:52:20 PM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

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She has also been an advocate of “de-mystifying Islam.

IOW, teaching primary grade kids islamic prayers.
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35 posted on 11/23/2016 9:54:57 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: headstamp 2

Ha, 3 points!


36 posted on 11/23/2016 9:56:00 PM PST by W. (Practice does NOT make perfect, only perfect practice makes perfect pistolcraft!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“Breitbart says she’s a Common Core supporter”

yeah, you keep pushing that nonsense here even though you know it’s been debunked:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3497754/posts


37 posted on 11/23/2016 9:56:59 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: A_perfect_lady

I don’t know why, but it seems like the public schools around me get stuck with the worst students, and there are many charter schools in the area.


38 posted on 11/23/2016 9:59:21 PM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: LouieFisk

Democrat FDR was a communist , the new deal, SSi etc. Anyone with an IQ above room temperature can see that.

democrat JFK was to the left of FDR on this and unionized federal employees with an Obama like executive order.

All democrats and all media reporters are communists. The media deifies democrat JFK when he was just another commie dictator wanna be.

JFK did a dictatorial executive order that unionized federal employees. JFK was a democrat and all are communists .FDR was a communist in the 1930’s we all know that .The media says JFK was a conservative . The media lies. All democrats are communists period. The media too are communists every one of them

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_10988

Executive Order 10988 is a United States presidential executive order issued by President John F. Kennedy on January 17, 1962 that recognized the right of federal employees to collective bargaining. This executive order was a breakthrough for public sector workers, who were not protected under the 1935 Wagner A


39 posted on 11/23/2016 10:00:28 PM PST by Democrat_media (President Trump has to change the 1965 immigration act so he can get a 2nd term)
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To: magna carta

Love Charlotte Iserbyt....She is one brilliant woman...who has been marginalized and ignored because she knows the truth.

She is correct as always.


40 posted on 11/23/2016 10:02:47 PM PST by savagesusie (When Law ceases to be Just, it ceases to be Law. (Thomas A./Founders/John Marshall)/Nuremberg)
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