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Gun Owners ‘Can Breathe Again’: Trump’s Win Emboldens Advocates
New York Times gently sobs into their pillows.... ^ | 11/22/2016 | By MANNY FERNANDEZ and MITCH SMITH

Posted on 11/23/2016 3:22:09 PM PST by Lazamataz

HOUSTON — Before the election, gun rights activists were so worried Hillary Clinton would win the presidency that some of them bought extra ammunition and guns, fearing a crackdown on certain weapons, bullets and magazines.

They’re not worried now. Instead, since the election of Donald J. Trump, gun advocates have been rejoicing, crowing about their political clout and plotting ways to eliminate many remaining curbs on gun ownership and use as they await one of the most vocal pro-gun presidential candidates ever to enter the White House.

“We’ve been threatened. We’ve been bullied. We’ve been ridiculed for eight years,” said Alice Tripp, legislative director of the Texas State Rifle Association, the state affiliate of the National Rifle Association. “I expect the tone to change. If tone sets policy, then we’ve got it made.”

It was more than just the outcome of the presidential race. Gun advocates played a role in flipping the State Senate in Iowa from blue to red and helped defeat a ballot initiative in Maine that would have required universal background checks for gun sales.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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1 posted on 11/23/2016 3:22:09 PM PST by Lazamataz
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To: marktwain

WHOO HOOOOO


2 posted on 11/23/2016 3:22:29 PM PST by Lazamataz (TRUMP WINS!!!! TRUMP WINS!!!! TRUMP WINS!!!! TRUMP WINS!!!! TRUMP WINS!!!! TRUMP WINS!!!!)
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To: Lazamataz

The Gersh Kuntzmans at the NYT are all widdling in their underoos. Safe spaces, everyone! We’ll tell you when it’s safe to come out. (snicker)


3 posted on 11/23/2016 3:26:06 PM PST by Noumenon (We owe them nothing: not respect, not loyalty, not obedience.)
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To: Lazamataz

A little easier.
Lets wait until some things get passed that are genuine significant changes before we breathe easier. You know some anti-2a freedom leos are not going to go along with them if it makes citizens lives easier.


4 posted on 11/23/2016 3:27:16 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Noumenon

Yes, we are plotting:

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/11/dean-weingarten/using-amnesty-roll-back-second-amendment-infringements/


5 posted on 11/23/2016 3:28:59 PM PST by marktwain
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To: Lazamataz

Good effing deal. The 2nd Amendment is safe for now, but only for now.


6 posted on 11/23/2016 3:29:32 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Lazamataz

The one thing that should concern all gun owners is if it turns out that a lot of the Federal Laws are overturned or nullified, there will be an “opening” in some states to take that to mean that they can preempt the Second Amendment without any interference. I abhor Federal Laws in general, but there needs to be an unquivocal addressing by the SCOTUS that the 2A means exactly what it says, and that all states must conform to a National RIGHT to carry a firearm without interference from the states.


7 posted on 11/23/2016 3:30:27 PM PST by vette6387
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To: Lazamataz

As long as the media and the rest of the treasonist rats act like they are true enemies to our country and way of life, I will continue to buy guns and hold large stashes of ammo.


8 posted on 11/23/2016 3:31:51 PM PST by Gator113 (~DRAIN THE SWAMP~ ~ LOCK HER UP ~ ~DRAIN THE SWAMP~ ~DRAIN THE SWAMP~ ~DRAIN THE SWAMP~)
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To: Noumenon

Sitzpiddlers are sitzpiddling en masse.

Best
Election
EVER!

L


9 posted on 11/23/2016 3:32:23 PM PST by Lurker (America burned the witch.)
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To: marktwain

Another amnesty would be a great thing. There are a lot of unregistered Class 3 items hidden away that should be legally in the hands of collectors and shooters.


10 posted on 11/23/2016 3:33:28 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Lazamataz

I always was breathing.

I think it’s the other side that needs to worry about breathing.


11 posted on 11/23/2016 3:34:07 PM PST by chris37 (It's time to burn the GOP down.)
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To: Lurker
"It's the smell, Mr. Anderson."
12 posted on 11/23/2016 3:37:48 PM PST by Noumenon (We owe them nothing: not respect, not loyalty, not obedience.)
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To: Lurker

Tel lyou what, though - there are folks around here who have impressive armories that they won’t show or discuss with anyone. Just sayin. The prudent man remains prepared for The Day.


13 posted on 11/23/2016 3:39:41 PM PST by Noumenon (We owe them nothing: not respect, not loyalty, not obedience.)
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To: Noumenon
Tel lyou what, though - there are folks around here who have impressive armories that they won’t show or discuss with anyone.

If things turn ugly, I imagine most members of the FR Boating Club will take up scuba - and rescue items that were lost in the rash of tragic accidents.

14 posted on 11/23/2016 3:44:18 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Lazamataz

I live in California.

This will be the best holiday season, Thanksgiving in a long, long time with the Trump victory. MAGA!

But... I live in California. I am a 60 year old gun owner - have had guns from a long time, many lurchased DECADES AGO, and more coming soon... Lever action and revolvers are my style... but I cannot breath a sigh of relief. Because I live in California. My number one concerns are (1) never letting the alt-left know what I have, I don’t give a flying fox what they think they need to know, and (2) resupply my ammo.

I have a lot of ammo - but I want more. Because I live in California. And need the ammo. Why? EARTHQUAKES AND THUGS.


15 posted on 11/23/2016 3:44:32 PM PST by ShivaFan
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To: Lazamataz

Comments at NYT are good to read. Note that some of the people commenting use the meme: “As a gun owner myself...I support reasonable restrictions...”.

Very effective tactic, and one that I’m now starting to employ. We have NO CLUE if the person doing the writing has ever touched a gun, but I’ve found 80% of people take a statement like that at face value and give it instant credibility. In one case I made two postings, one on each side of the issue, about 10 minutes apart - no one even noticed.

So perhaps FReepers will join me in using the tactic (i.e., calling ourselves doctors, attorneys, liberals, whatever) in these debates - it does work (although not on this site, since we’re honest with each other here).


16 posted on 11/23/2016 3:48:30 PM PST by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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To: Lazamataz

Trump should request congress to institute a $200.00 tax credit for all concealed carrying Americans to offset the 600,000 to 2.6 million crimes prevented every year by lawful carrying of firearms.
The 12 states that have constitutional carry should give carrying citizens free tax numbers to submit to the IRS to claim their credits.

Just an idea that’s been rattling around in my head lately.


17 posted on 11/23/2016 3:51:20 PM PST by RandallFlagg (Vote for your guns!)
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To: marktwain

I’d be interested in your opinion of my idea on post #17, please.


18 posted on 11/23/2016 3:54:42 PM PST by RandallFlagg (Vote for your guns!)
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To: Lazamataz

Well were dying in California and need Supreme Court help or executive orders to undue the unconstitutional tyranny we are under. You now need a card and approval from the Department of Justice to purchase ammunition as well as any type of firearm, and only after you have had a safety class all of which you must pay the State several hundred dollars in fees. So you cannot exercise your 2nd amendment rights without first paying the government. Plus you cannot order ammunition online or from out of state. Oh, and than you cannot open carry a firearm and most counties will not issue a concealed carry permit, so even after you pay the government all their fees you can’t take your firearm anywhere and it must remain locked at home in a safe, which by law you also have to purchase. Your AR15 pattern rifle must have a bullet button which means the normal magazine release requires a special pointed tool to release the modified button itself. And those 20 and 30 round standard magazines for all your semi-auto rifles you own and purchased over the last 50 years are now all illegal, so destroy them or turn them in. And than go and register all of your AR-15 rifles with bullet buttons with the Department of Justice and pay another fee and once you do that when you die the rifle must be handed over to the State. How is that for infringement upon infringement.


19 posted on 11/23/2016 3:55:01 PM PST by Mat_Helm
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To: Lazamataz

The fight needs to carry on - the repeal of the GCA of 1968, the NFA of 1934, the abolition of the ATF, and criminalization of attempts to enact gun control .


20 posted on 11/23/2016 3:55:43 PM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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