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Calling Someone ‘Racist’ Is Not Going to Help You Win an Argument
New York Magazine ^ | 11/23 | Drake Baer

Posted on 11/23/2016 2:43:33 PM PST by nickcarraway

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To: Lorianne

That’s it. By being the FIRST in an argument to claim the other is racist, they try to claim the high ground and put the other on the defensive. Of course, it only SEEMS to work from their own jaded perspective because they know they themselves would be horrified to be called racist.

They cannot fathom that those who know they are not racists just ignore the labeling and move on to the actual facts of the case. Then they claim that because you are not dignifying the remark by denying the label, that you are admitting it.

It is so tiring arguing with liberals that I no longer do it.


21 posted on 11/23/2016 3:36:07 PM PST by Kellis91789 (We hope for a bloodless revolution, but revolution is still the goal.)
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To: nickcarraway

Nowadays its a signal that you have won the argument.


22 posted on 11/23/2016 3:40:09 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: aquila48

Dealing with people where they are, certainly requires an effort to understand where they are.

A lot of accusations that white people are racist are coming from souls who have managed to make invalid assumptions about people based on race.

But in the case of problems associated with some particular minority groups, I think a good case can be made that leftists have egged on the associated group identities in various ways. This is, of course, cruel! I note less how hypocritical it is, than how cruel it is.

And the leftists are supposed to be the kindness people, but they are more like the making-excuses people.


23 posted on 11/23/2016 3:41:40 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ari-freedom

Dont forget the close second “sexist”.


24 posted on 11/23/2016 3:42:15 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: nickcarraway

The author’s bias is obvious in the statement “don’t call them and their views deplorable, even if you think they are”.

They’d be better off reading Hillbilly Elegy: A Memoir of a Family and Culture in Crisis.


25 posted on 11/23/2016 3:42:50 PM PST by tbw2
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To: Emergencyawesome

The left engages in classic bigotry - they hate all those who don’t agree with them and use the most powerful insults and social pressure to punish those who dissent.


26 posted on 11/23/2016 3:44:00 PM PST by tbw2
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To: Kellis91789

I think it’s worth it to keep pressing the truth.

The most damning thing of all... as I see it... is that the lefties are being cruel to the minorities they are supposedly advocating for, by playing up their situations as far worse than they are. Cruel. CRUEL!

The result is to gin up hypersensitivity and an artificial sense of despair.

That comes from the depths of hell.


27 posted on 11/23/2016 3:45:23 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

If you dare believe in any traditional view... you’re “SEXIST.”

But if you have any kind of cockamamie alternative theory about sex, ohhh that’s NEVER “SEXIST.”

Lies. Cruel, cruel lies. God hates them.


28 posted on 11/23/2016 3:46:39 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: nickcarraway

Gaaak....

That article reads like it was written by a progressive liberal, for consumption by other progressive liberals.

The author of the book it references, spent five long years ‘studying’ normal American people in Louisiana, and yet learned nothing. She came away from the experience still insulated within her protective bubble, disconnected from the woof and warp of everyday America.


29 posted on 11/23/2016 3:54:38 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: nickcarraway

As soon as a liberal calls you a racist he has won the argument. In his ind there is nothing more to say by either party. He has identified you as a racist therefore you are not worth talking to as you are hopelessly rational and he is right because he has identified you. Truth is true because a liberal speaks it and for no other necessary reason.


30 posted on 11/23/2016 3:56:55 PM PST by arthurus
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To: nickcarraway

The wonderful thing about the 1st Amendment is that it protects the ability to THINK what you want, BELIEVE what you decide, WORSHIP whoever you want, as long as it does not infringe on anyone else’s individual rights. Thought is not a crime, we are judged on our ACTIONS.

Unfortunately, the law regulating ‘hate crime’ is half way to making ‘thought’ a crime.

Good job LIBS. Way to protect our freedoms and expose the evil!!!! (sarc)


31 posted on 11/23/2016 4:07:54 PM PST by Wildbill22 ( They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton William Abrams)
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To: tinyowl

That’s it exactly.

Here is a species of subhumans. Move quietly, don’t raise your voice, and never look them in the eye.

They can be trained with effort but it’s well worth it.


32 posted on 11/23/2016 4:08:20 PM PST by Gingersnap
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To: arthurus

As soon as a liberal calls you a racist he has won the argument. In his ind there is nothing more to say by either party. He has identified you as a racist therefore you are not worth talking to as you are hopelessly rational and he is right because he has identified you. Truth is true because a liberal speaks it and for no other necessary reason.


As soon as LIBS try to label me in any way, I label them a Alinskey Marxist, anti-American, Anti-constitutional Enemy of our country who should be tried for treason and hung or shot under the law and Constitution our forefathers fought and died for..


33 posted on 11/23/2016 4:21:34 PM PST by Wildbill22 ( They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton William Abrams)
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To: nickcarraway

Thats right. Im a racist. I never did care for the Chud!


34 posted on 11/23/2016 4:24:47 PM PST by Organic Panic (Gentrification in America. Rich White Man Evicts Poor Black Family - MSNBCPBSCNNNYTABC)
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To: Wildbill22

Of course I leave the enforcement of any ‘label’ to our court system...


35 posted on 11/23/2016 4:31:36 PM PST by Wildbill22 ( They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton William Abrams)
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To: nickcarraway

So. Her thesis was that if she didn’t **start out** by calling people racists, they’d actually invite her into their homes.
Where she can then proceed to smear them with her smirking, arrogant, preconceived notions that they’re all a bunch of racists.
One of the more disgustingly condescending spews I’ve seen on FR.
Thanks for posting, Nick.
We can never be reminded too many times how much disdain these vile elitists have for ordinary working people.


36 posted on 11/23/2016 5:54:04 PM PST by mumblypeg (They've summoned up a thundercloud/ and they're going to hear from me. (Anthem-Leonard Cohen))
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To: tinyowl

Baby steps...


37 posted on 11/23/2016 9:54:33 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: nickcarraway

Neither is calling black or hispanic voters who vote Republicans “race traitors” going to win an argument.

It’s all about intimidating and shaming those who don’t vote Rat.


38 posted on 11/24/2016 3:05:00 AM PST by a fool in paradise ( Democrats' last peaceful transfer of power was January 1981.)
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To: nickcarraway
Calling Someone ‘Racist’ Is Not Going to Help You Win an Argument

It's not supposed to.

It is DESIGNED to get the 'racist' off the subject and into a defense of him(her)self.

39 posted on 11/24/2016 5:18:21 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DoodleDawg

Bingo!


40 posted on 11/24/2016 5:18:52 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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