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Do you believe He is sovereign and puts “whosoever will” wherever He wishes?


56 posted on 11/23/2016 7:13:08 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Do you believe He is sovereign and puts “whosoever will” wherever He wishes?

Bro, we need to corral the word "will" and make it serve in English what God's purpose is of using it in the Greek language. Often our English translation is just a bit too ambiguous to give us His slant on things, though God's/Jesus' attribute is to be sovereign in all things. So:

I believe He sovereignly gives each of us a charge to accomplish, and that is to make disciples who, like ourselves, are bent on imitating Jesus The Christ, and learning how to reign with Him.

I believe that He sovereignly allowed Germany to fall under the influence of Adolf Hitler as a judgment for their theologians failing to produce godly training for godly converts, but instead putting themselves in judgment over Himself and His Word.

I believe that God sovereignly allows us to elect or appoint our own leaders without interference other than to make provision for making disciples and training them to rule in a godly fashion, and if not, to suffer the consequences that we have earned.

I believe He sovereignly allows bad leaders to come to power under His permissive will (βούλημα, Strong's G1013), despite that His preference would be otherwise.

I believe that He sovereignly will permit humans to transgress individually and/or in the aggregate up and until they overstep into disregarding His determined will (θέλημα, Strong's G2307) and then He will take action. And that action may be so enormous and powerful as to make the very mountains shake.

I believe that Trump will be permitted to become our President through God's permissive will through His gracious patience with us and with our desire (and certainly not with 49.99% of the voters to have a woman criminal as the preference); not according to His preference, which I think would have been for us to have chosen a man of thorough commitment to Christ Jesus as Master with godly behavior and language consistent with that commitment.

And that is my belief, my FRiend and Brother in The Lord.

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Strong's Number G1013
βούλημα
boulēma boo'-lay-mah
Strong's Definition:
From G1014; a resolve: - purpose, will.
Thayer Definition:
1) will, counsel, purpose
Part of Speech: noun neuter
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: from G1014

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Strong's Number G1014
βούλομαι
boulomai
boo'-lom-ahee
Strong's Definition:
Middle voice of a primary verb; to “will”, that is, (reflexively) be willing: - be disposed, minded, intend, list (be, of own) will (-ing). Compare G2309.
Thayer Definition:
1) to will deliberately, have a purpose, be minded
2) of willing as an affection, to desire
Part of Speech: verb
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: middle voice of a primary verb

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Strong's Number G2307
θέλημα
thelēma
thel'-ay-mah
Strong's Definition:
From the prolonged form of G2309; a determination (properly the thing), that is, (actively) choice(specifically purpose, decree; abstractly volition) or (passively) inclination: - desire, pleasure, will.
Thayer Definition:
1) what one wishes or has determined shall be done
. . 1a) of the purpose of God to bless mankind through Christ
. . 1b) of what God wishes to be done by us
. . . . 1b1) commands, precepts
2) will, choice, inclination, desire, pleasure
Part of Speech: noun neuter
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: from the prolonged form of G2309

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Strong's Number G2309
θέλω, ἐθέλω
thelō ethelō
thel'-o, eth-el'-o
Strong's Definition:
Either the first or the second form may be used. In certain tenses θελέω theleō thel-eh'-o (and ἐθέλέω etheleō eth-el-eh'-o) are used, which are otherwise obsolete; apparently strengthened from the alternate form of G138; to determine (as an active voice option from subjective impulse; whereas G1014 properly denotes rather a passive voice acquiescence in objective considerations), that is, choose or prefer (literally or figuratively); by implication to wish, that is, be inclined to (sometimes adverbially gladly); impersonally for the future tense, to be about to; by Hebraism to delight in: - desire, be disposed (forward), intend, list, love, mean, please, have rather, (be) will (have, -ling, -ling [ly])
Thayer Definition:
1) to will, have in mind, intend
. . 1a) to be resolved or determined, to purpose
. . 1b) to desire, to wish
. . 1c) to love
. . . . 1c1) to like to do a thing, be fond of doing
. . 1d) to take delight in, have pleasure
Part of Speech: verb
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: apparently strengthened from the alternate form of G138

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An example comparing the two, in Jesus' Olivet prayer: "Saying, Father, if thou be willingG1014, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my willG2307, but thine, be done" (Luke 22:42 AV).

60 posted on 11/23/2016 12:40:47 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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