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Americans who live near border say Trump’s wall is unwelcome
PBS ^ | 11/22/16 | Frank Bajak

Posted on 11/22/2016 4:29:47 PM PST by DeathBeforeDishonor1

LOS EBANOS, Texas — All along the winding Rio Grande, the people who live in this bustling, fertile region where the U.S. border meets the Gulf of Mexico never quite understood how Donald Trump’s great wall could ever be much more than campaign rhetoric.

Erecting a concrete barrier across the entire 1,954-mile frontier with Mexico, they know, collides head-on with multiple realities: the geology of the river valley, fierce local resistance and the immense cost.

RELATED LINKS Jeff Sessions, Trump’s pick for attorney general, could influence immigration policy Trump supporter pitches hard-line immigration plan for Homeland Security What we know about Trump’s plan of action An electronically fortified “virtual wall” with surveillance technology that includes night-and-day video cameras, tethered observation balloons and high-flying drones makes a lot more sense to people here. It’s already in wide use and expanding.

If a 30- to 40-foot concrete wall is a panacea for illegal immigration, as Trump insisted during the campaign, the locals are not convinced. And few were surprised when the president-elect seemed to soften his position five days after the election, saying that the wall could include some fencing.

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To: Lazamataz; All

That’s the Rio Grande Valley, where elections are regularly stolen for Democrats and people vote in alphabetical order using the same pen and handwriting. I don’t obsess about building a wall - it can be double fencing like the Israelis use, crocodile pits, minefields - just so long as the illegals are stopped.


41 posted on 11/22/2016 4:55:33 PM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1

The few that they found are the entrenched smugglers that live in the area and their livelihood depends upon an open border ... the vast majority feel the exact opposite.


42 posted on 11/22/2016 4:56:18 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (The Mofia is a private crime family; whereas, the DOJ is the gov't's political crime family.)
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1

Headline should read:

Illegal Aliens and their unholy spawn say Trump’s wall not welcome.


43 posted on 11/22/2016 4:56:30 PM PST by Roger Kaputnik (Just because I'm paranoid doesn't prove that they aren't out to get me.)
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To: Logical me
Build the wall. The hell with those that object.

OK, but don't think that doesn't undercut property rights arguments.

44 posted on 11/22/2016 4:56:47 PM PST by semimojo
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To: EQAndyBuzz
“Erecting a concrete barrier across the entire 1,954-mile frontier with Mexico, they know, collides head-on with multiple realities: the geology of the river valley, fierce local resistance and the immense “



Solution to areas “incompatible” with continuous hard barrier construction.

Construct a two story concrete block house.

Climate controlled living/cooking/showers upstairs, 5 bay garage, shop and holding cells downstairs.

Construct a paved covered “carport” along the back (away from the border) with four “ready” ATV’s equipped with a mounted M249.

All agents staffing the blockhouses are issued M4s and Glock 21s.

On the (flat) roof of the building have continuous observation and defensive positions around all sides.

A 30 foot tower on top of each blockhouse for HD, FLIR cameras and communications and cell antennas.

HD optical zoom cameras controlled and connected to PC’s in the living quarters running motion detecting software.

FLIR cameras are likewise controlled and connected to displays on large screens for constant observation.

Have vibration and magnetic detection sensors distributed to the front and between each blockhouse that will alert the detection position in the controlling PCs.

Link all blockhouses with TSOA, TIGR or SUDA like data sharing so any single blockhouse “outage” will not affect the links with the other blockhouses across the border.

Construct one blockhouse every half mile in all areas incompatible with hard barrier construction along the border.

If a particular area becomes overwhelmed with too many crossing attempts, begin hard barrier construction between the blockhouses. Open areas are only allowed directly next to the blockhouse that can be closed with barrier gates.

Continue the hard barrier construction between the blockhouses until the problem area is under control.

This system will allow total control of the border as there will be no location further than 1/4 mile from a blockhouse.

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45 posted on 11/22/2016 4:58:15 PM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1

I actually wouldn’t be surprised if a great many people along the border to object to a wall. If you looking at the voting pattern, at least in TX, it’s pretty blue. But it doesn’t matter if they want one or not. It’s what do we need to secure the border. If they don’t like it, they’re free to move, either north OR south of it.


46 posted on 11/22/2016 5:06:49 PM PST by Mac n Jac (www.vetsfightingms.org)
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To: Lazamataz

Fine. Just build the wall a little bit NORTH of them.


47 posted on 11/22/2016 5:15:57 PM PST by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1

“The geology of the river valley, fierce local resistance and the immense cost.”

They are not paying attention. This is Trump


48 posted on 11/22/2016 5:21:24 PM PST by stanne
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1

I live 10 miles from the border and the Trump Wall is damn sure welcome!


49 posted on 11/22/2016 5:27:00 PM PST by TexasCruzin (Trump is the man. #TrumpPence16)
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To: semimojo
don't think that doesn't undercut property rights arguments.

If ever there was a legitimate justification for "eminent domain"...this is it.

50 posted on 11/22/2016 5:28:38 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (The fear of stark justice sends hot urine down their thighs)
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To: Lazamataz

Jose X is opposed to the wall. He is a businessman who feels it will damage his business as an uncertified pharmacologist.


51 posted on 11/22/2016 5:28:42 PM PST by Vehmgericht
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1

This is PBS so those who they say are against the wall are probably illegals living in the US or Mexican-Americans who are more loyal to Mexico than the US. PBS lacks credibility.


52 posted on 11/22/2016 5:43:41 PM PST by falcon99
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1
As best I can tell, people on the border are divided, just like the rest of us. Some want it. Some don't. Some cynically believe the wall will be ineffective.

As best I can tell the most popular illegal way to cross the Southern border is to rent an Id and walk across the bridge. Many thousands cross the bridge each morning rush-hour to go to work. A few thousand less cross the bridge again in afternoon rush hour. What happened to the rest?

Smart illegals laugh at the stupid who cross in the desert.

53 posted on 11/22/2016 5:49:54 PM PST by spintreebob
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1

I don’t believe it.


54 posted on 11/22/2016 5:53:38 PM PST by LucyT
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1

PBS had to have looked pretty hard to find someone to say that.


55 posted on 11/22/2016 6:57:33 PM PST by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1
they know, collides head-on with multiple realities: the geology of the river valley, fierce local resistance and the immense cost.

This almost sounded real, until I got to the "local resistance" part.

I'm sure that the designers of the wall will be happy to leave gaps where the illegal dope smugglers and other criminals can be funneled through the properties of "local resisters."

56 posted on 11/23/2016 12:28:25 AM PST by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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