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Report: Presidential electors planning to undermine Electoral College
The Hill ^ | 11/22/2016 | Harper Neidig

Posted on 11/22/2016 8:57:51 AM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel

A number of Democratic Electoral College electors are planning to use their votes to undermine the election process in opposition to President-elect Donald Trump, Politico is reporting.

Some electors are lobbying their Republican counterparts to vote for someone other than Trump in an attempt to deny him the 270 votes required to elect him, according to the news outlet. They are also contemplating whether to cast their votes for someone other than Hillary Clinton

With at least six electors already vowing to become "faithless," the defection could be the most significant since 1808, when six Democratic-Republican electors refused to vote for James Madison, choosing vice presidential candidate George Clinton instead.

The electors acknowledge that it is unlikely that they will be able to block Trump from gaining office, Politico reported, but they are optimistic that their effort will raise enough questions about the Electoral College to reform or abolish it.

"If it gets into the House, the controversy and the uncertainty that would immediately blow up into a political firestorm in the U.S. would cause enough people — my hope is — to look at the whole concept of the Electoral College," one of the electors told Politico.

It’s unclear how many, if any, Republicans have signed on to the effort.

Twenty-nine states legally require their electors to obey the results of the popular vote in their state.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016electoralcollege; 2016electors; aflac; bfac; clinton; democrats; dncstrategy; electoralcollege; hillary2016; trump; trump2016; trumptransition
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Is this legal???!
1 posted on 11/22/2016 8:57:51 AM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

If Republicans had done this, the outcry would be all the way to the UN.


2 posted on 11/22/2016 8:59:24 AM PST by I want the USA back (Lying Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain
With at least six electors already vowing to become "faithless," the defection could be the most significant since 1808, when six Democratic-Republican electors refused to vote for James Madison, choosing vice presidential candidate George Clinton instead.

Figures there was a Clinton involved...............

3 posted on 11/22/2016 8:59:29 AM PST by Red Badger
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

It’s a Lexington and Concord moment if so.


4 posted on 11/22/2016 9:00:00 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

No. Electors voting against their state will by law be replaced with an Elector that votes according to how the state voted.


5 posted on 11/22/2016 9:00:02 AM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

The ‘Rats never want to leave anyone alone, especially self sufficient makers.


6 posted on 11/22/2016 9:00:20 AM PST by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Jeezy—The media is really flogging this scenario.


7 posted on 11/22/2016 9:00:27 AM PST by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician/Journalist. Some assembly required.)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain
"A number of Democratic Electoral College electors are planning to use their votes to undermine the election process"

Trying to undermine the electoral process is insurrection.

8 posted on 11/22/2016 9:01:11 AM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

the chances of 36 electors bailing on trump is as close to zero as it can possibly be without actually being zero.


9 posted on 11/22/2016 9:01:59 AM PST by wny
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

More clickbait from The Hill. Yes, the electors could technically vote who they want, but 29 states have faithless elector laws.

Even if a huge number defect, Congress can object to them.

A few defections won’t change the outcome either way.


10 posted on 11/22/2016 9:02:12 AM PST by CountryClassSF
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

I think Congress should be able to do something about it and each state could change the electors they are sending.

This is thwarting the US election laws.


11 posted on 11/22/2016 9:02:52 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: wny

In the election of 2000, Bush and a electoral vote margin of 2 and didn’t lose any.


12 posted on 11/22/2016 9:03:24 AM PST by AU72
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Won’t happen, just noise from agitprop sore losers


13 posted on 11/22/2016 9:03:43 AM PST by bigbob (We have better coverage than Verizon - Can You Hear Us Now?)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Fake News!


14 posted on 11/22/2016 9:03:51 AM PST by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Annie get your gun!


15 posted on 11/22/2016 9:04:13 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Democrat electors are not relevant.


16 posted on 11/22/2016 9:04:30 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Conspiracy Question again: What if ISIS blows up everyone in the state capital of say Florida with all its electors prior to their vote?


17 posted on 11/22/2016 9:05:17 AM PST by Democrats hate too much
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain
... they are optimistic that their effort will raise enough questions about the Electoral College to reform or abolish it.

They can be 'optimistic' all they want, but it requires a Constitutional Amendment to change it and that's not easy. The Congress has to draft the amendment, pass it by 2/3 (66%) majority in BOTH houses, then submit it to the States for ratification, either by their legislatures or referendum, and they are mostly controlled by Republicans. It takes 3/4 of the states to approve, or 38 out of 50...........so it ain't gonna happen............

18 posted on 11/22/2016 9:05:28 AM PST by Red Badger
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Some states have laws that prevent a “faithless” elector vote. But the penalty is only civil -— a fine. Keep in mind that the slate of electors for whom you vote is a slate of party partisans who are not likely to turn against their party.


19 posted on 11/22/2016 9:05:36 AM PST by doug from upland (time to bring down the Clinton money laundering foundation)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

There are liberals who have gotten into the Republican Party to try this.


20 posted on 11/22/2016 9:05:36 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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