Posted on 11/21/2016 10:59:39 AM PST by Swordmaker
(This is a linked petition to the English Language version of the Petition to plead with the Electoral College Electors to change their pledged votes for Donald Trump to Hillary Clinton instead. The current meme in the media is that 4.5 million American voters have signed this petition to these Electors. . . but if that is the case, why is this concurrent GERMAN LANGUAGE linked Change.org petition with its petition count being included in that count? How many other languages are being signed by other foreign nationals to pump up the signature count? — Swordmaker)
Am 19. Dezember werden die Wahlmänner des U.S. Electoral College ihre Stimmzettel zur Präsidentschaftswahl abgeben. Wenn alle so wählen wie ihr Staaten entschieden haben wird Donald Trump gewinnen. Allerdings können sie auch für Hillary Clinton wählen, wenn sie wollen. Selbst in den Staaten, in denen das nicht erlaubt ist, müssten sie jediglich eine kleine Strafe zahlen - mit Sicherheit würden Clinton Unterstützer diese Strafe gerne begleichen.
Wir rufen die Wahlmänner auf die Entscheidung ihres Staates zu ignorieren und für Clinton zu wählen. Wieso?
Mr. Trump ist der Aufgabe nicht gewachsen. Er macht so viele Amerikaner zum Sündenbock und seine Impulsivität, sein Schikanieren, sein Lügen, seine bestätigte Vergangenheit von sexuellen Übergriffen und seine fehlende Erfahrung machen ihn zu einer Gefahr für die Republik.
Hillary Clinton hat in der Wahl insgesamt mehr Stimmen bekommen und sollte deswegen Präsidentin sein.
Sie hat das sogenannte Popular Vote gewonnen. Trump hat nur aufgrund des U.S. Electoral College „gewonnen“.
Das U.S. Electoral College darf allerdings entweder den einen oder den anderen Kandidaten als Präsident/in bestimmen. Wieso nutzen wir also nicht die undemokratischste unserer Institutionen, um ein demokratisches Ergebnis zu erreichen?
SIE HAT MEHR STIMMEN BEKOMMEN!
Es gibt keinen Grund, warum Trump Präsident sein sollte. „Es ist der Wille des Volkes“
Nein. Sie hat mehr Stimmen bekommen.
„Das Regierungssystem festgehalten in unserer Verfassung sagt, dass er gewinnt“
Nein. Unsere Verfassung sagt, dass die Wahlmänner bestimmen.
„Zu viele Staaten verbieten sogenannte Faithless Electors“ (Wahlmann, der entgegen dem Wählerwunsch abstimmt)
24 Staaten verpflichten Wahlmänner. Wenn Wahlmänner gegen die Entscheidung ihres Staates stimmen, müssen sie eine Strafe bezahlen. Und die Menschen regen sich auf. Dennoch können sie so abstimmen wie sie wollen und es gibt keine rechtlichen Folgen in den meisten Staaten.
BITTE UNTERSCHREIBT UND VERBREITET DIE PETITION!
This petition will be delivered to:
Electoral College Electors
On December 19, the Electors of the Electoral College will cast their ballots. If they all vote the way their states voted, Donald Trump will win. However, they can vote for Hillary Clinton if they choose. Even in states where that is not allowed, their vote would still be counted, they would simply pay a small fine - which we can be sure Clinton supporters will be glad to pay! We are calling on the Electors to ignore their states' votes and cast their ballots for Secretary Clinton. Why?
Mr. Trump is unfit to serve. His scapegoating of so many Americans, and his impulsivity, bullying, lying, admitted history of sexual assault, and utter lack of experience make him a danger to the Republic.
Secretary Clinton WON THE POPULAR VOTE and should be President. Hillary won the popular vote. The only reason Trump "won" is because of the Electoral College.
But the Electoral College can actually give the White House to either candidate. So why not use this most undemocratic of our institutions to ensure a democratic result?
SHE WON THE POPULAR VOTE.
There is no reason Trump should be President.
"It's the 'People's Will'"
No. She won the popular vote.
"Our system of government under our Constitution says he wins"
No. Our Constitution says the Electors choose.
"Too many states prohibit 'Faithless Electors'"
24 states bind electors. If electors vote against their party, they usually pay a fine. And people get mad. But they can vote however they want and there is no legal means to stop them in most states.
PLEASE SIGN AND SHARE!
This petition will be delivered to:
Electoral College Electors
I have said all along that the media is not telling people that Change.org is not limited to US voters and that the signatures on the petition could be coming from anywhere. Here’s proof. The original poster put of at least TWO petitions, one in English and one in German asking for signatures. He’s asking for foreign nationals to sign. GLOBALISM at its worst attempting to influence the outcome of our election!
Even if the count were accurate, all it tells me is that millions have reaffirmed their desire to have an unscrupulous lying law-breaking egomaniacal screeching harridan in the Oval Office.
Etwas ist nicht koscher.
My guess is that one to three electoral college votes will come in with unexpected names, not necessarily Hillary Clinton. There was an elector in WA state who stated that they might be voting for the Green Party’s Jill Stein (so there’s one fewer for Hillary if so).
Otherwise, I would expect them to fulfill their constitutional duties and legal obligations as set out under state laws.
The whole point of the Electoral College was to prevent mob rule based on large voting blocs in powerful states (which nowadays means CA and NY mostly). And as we’ve seen, it is the larger cities where people are most bent out of shape about the results.
Large cities have powerful civic governments and so their residents get many services from both municipal and state governments. People out in the boonies get fewer state services as well as fewer or zero municipal services. Their votes at the federal level should count for more.
This election and the past two are probably good advertising for moving the voting age up to about thirty and restrict it to employed property owners or people with full-time employment if they rent. Maybe a petition to that effect would be equally popular. Not kidding, our countries have to do something to prevent this slide into ignorant gimmedat voting that will destroy the foundation of both our freedoms and our prosperity.
That petition is for the raping-refugees that are practicing German.
The unspoken promise is that overturning our Electoral College and Government will give them access to more women, girls, little boys, goats, and whatever they need to satisfy their sexual emergencies.
I hate Arkansas Nazis.
Interesting.
German...first thing that comes to mind is George Soros. I think he is behind 100% of everything against Trump.
Ich bin ein Bedauerlich.
Stay away from any petition or survey on change.com.
It is a spin off from Obama’s first campaign and it is used by liberals to create email lists for democrat fund raising and spamming.
It’s in German so Soros’ friends can read it.
I am the Electoral College representative of the ##&& Congressional District of Texas. On December 19, 2016 I will have the honor of participating in a process devised by our Founding Fathers and included in our Constitution. That process is the election of a President of the United States. My vote is committed to Donald J. Trump as the 45th President of the United States. Mr. Trump received a majority of the public vote in the ##&& Congressional District, a majority of the public vote in Texas, and a majority of the full Electoral College vote is pledged to Mr. Trump. I am proud to be pledged to Mr. Trump, and our Electoral College vote is not subject to debate and change. TRUMP THAT BITCH!I got another message yesterday from him. He says he's getting hundreds of identical letters from all over the country urging him to switch his vote to Hillary. About the only thing that varies is the font. This is about as successful a tactic as buying a term paper for a college class and sumitting it as your own for a grade. The professor isn't fooled one bit. I bet every Republican elector is getting the same stupid form letter too.
TRUMP THAT BITCH!
If a German can be President, why can't a German sign a petition to subvert the Presidential election?
1. President Trump needs to court those electors, both his own and Hillary’s. He needs to argue that Hillary’s electors should preserve the system by making sure the final vote tally matches the pledged vote tally.
2. If the electors defect, I expect the outcome to be . . . ugly.
Exactly. Even a jelly doughnut can sign such a petition.
Shades of 2004 when the libs were trying to allow foreigners the vote for John Kerry.
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