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The Electoral College Was Meant to Stop Men Like Trump From Being President
The Atlantic ^ | November 21, 2016 | Peter Beinhart

Posted on 11/21/2016 8:56:08 AM PST by C19fan

Americans talk about democracy like it’s sacred. In public discourse, the more democratic American government is, the better. The people are supposed to rule.

But that’s not the premise that underlies America’s political system. Most of the men who founded the United States feared unfettered majority rule. James Madison wrote in Federalist 10 that systems of government based upon “pure democracy … have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property.” John Adams wrote in 1814 that, “Democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts and murders itself.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antitrump; beinart; democracy; electoral; electoralcollege; handwringers; leftist; liberalagenda; trump; trumpderangement; trumptransition
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To: silverleaf

LOL!
it was meant to stop states like NY and California from imposing unpopular cheating frauds like Hillary on the entire nation

——with money from other nations & George Soros


41 posted on 11/21/2016 9:24:01 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: C19fan

Peter has it backwards, it was meant to stop criminals like Hillary.


42 posted on 11/21/2016 9:25:02 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam , Know Peace)
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To: Tucker39

I thank God every day that He guided the framing of the Declaration and the Constitution.


43 posted on 11/21/2016 9:25:07 AM PST by Himyar (Sessions: the only real man in D.C.)
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To: pgkdan

In 2008 and again in 2012, it did not even stop the Constitutionally ineligible Obama.


44 posted on 11/21/2016 9:26:53 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam , Know Peace)
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To: rlmorel

Ding ding ding!

We have a winner!

Thank you for bringing out our REPUBLIC!


45 posted on 11/21/2016 9:27:32 AM PST by Wneighbor (Deplorable. And we win!)
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To: C19fan

Wrong, one important role, which was disgracefully abandoned with Obozo is to stop Constitutionally unqualified fraud artists from entering the WH.

http://ppsimmons.blogspot.com/2016/11/breaking-obama-fraud-case-to-be-made.html


46 posted on 11/21/2016 9:27:37 AM PST by iontheball
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To: 2banana
no....the constitution was written to stop the hitleries, and the bammies, but it did not work because no one stood up to them...

the courts did nothing..

let alone the media, the historical overseer of the govt and its doings, actually COMPLIED with the govt in all things....

imagine running a scam like the toon foundation while in office, selling secrets, business, access, military intervention all to gather in millions for personal use....

Imelda Marcos was a piker compared to these arrogant elites...

47 posted on 11/21/2016 9:31:14 AM PST by cherry
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To: 2banana

Yep... Hillary won the popular vote (allegedly), but thank goodness the Electoral College worked as designed and stopped the coronation of the most corrupt politician who has ever lived.


48 posted on 11/21/2016 9:39:02 AM PST by Doctor Freeze
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To: silverleaf

I’m sure crooked dems were stuffing ballot boxes with dead peoples names over a hundred years ago..Founding fathers knew it would happen...


49 posted on 11/21/2016 9:40:51 AM PST by Hambone 1934
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To: C19fan

Used to be you had to be smart to write for the Atlantic

The founders were quite explicit they at the time did not want the principalities of New York or Boston or Charleston or Baltimore or Philadelphia to control the nation

Hence the electoral college

It may have been their most astute appraisal and measure


50 posted on 11/21/2016 9:44:25 AM PST by wardaddy (trump is a great tourniquet but that's all folks.......)
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To: C19fan
The people are supposed to rule.

No, the States are supposed to rule.

51 posted on 11/21/2016 9:46:27 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: C19fan

No Petey you dope it was meant to keep criminal like your godess out of our White House.


52 posted on 11/21/2016 9:48:18 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: refermech

Exactly. CA+NY. HILLARY +5 m. Everywhere else, 48 states, TRUMP +3 m


53 posted on 11/21/2016 9:51:03 AM PST by BigEdLB (To Dimwitocrats: We won. You lost. Get used to it.)
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To: C19fan

He doesn’t understand what he speaks of.

We’ve shifted more to a pure democracy despite the warnings of the Founders. His belief that the electoral college was supposed to overturn the vote isn’t correct. The popular vote was never meant to count. The president was meant to be selected by the states. As such, Trump would be the winner.


54 posted on 11/21/2016 9:51:20 AM PST by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: C19fan

IF...the leftards were to somehow be successful in denying Trump the Presidency....what do y’all think will happen?


55 posted on 11/21/2016 9:53:03 AM PST by Valk Rider
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To: C19fan

Peter the Gay is pretty dumb with this lie......everyone knows it’s the opposite!


56 posted on 11/21/2016 9:53:39 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: C19fan
The Electoral College Was Meant to Stop Men Like Trump From Being President

No, precious. The Electoral College was quite clearly meant to keep anyone, even a woman and I do use that term loosely, like Hillary Clinton from being President. The evidence is staring you right in the face and you just can't admit it, can you?

57 posted on 11/21/2016 9:55:53 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Wneighbor

I think he knows full well the difference, but like most liberal argues, he counts on his readers not to know or care.


58 posted on 11/21/2016 9:58:04 AM PST by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: Gaffer

I say he did it on purpose.


59 posted on 11/21/2016 9:59:05 AM PST by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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all these posts about what the electoral college was intended to do are wrong

at the time electoral systems across the states were inconsistent. many states did not use the popular vote for many years but rather had their state legislatures pick electors.

the EC simply allowed all states to participate, allowing each state to choose its own method of selecting electors in time for the deadline of when electors were required to cast their votes.

it preserved the Connecticut compromise of balancing large and small states by apportioning electors based on senate plus house membership.

and of course it had to be amended to separate the votes for president and vice president when that flaw was revealed in the 1800 election

but it wasn’t intended to be anything more than a practical solution to varying election standards and methodologies across the states


60 posted on 11/21/2016 10:08:09 AM PST by ChronicMA
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