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CNN’s Stelter: Trump Supporters ‘Confused’ by ‘Fake News’ Sites
NewsBusters.org ^ | November 20, 2016 | Nicholas Fondacaro

Posted on 11/20/2016 5:46:47 PM PST by Kaslin

The notion that Donald Trump was elected president of the United States because of fake news stories going viral is something the liberal media, and CNN’s Brian Stelter in particular, have been harping on for a while now. It was nagging Stelter so much that he dedicated a monologue to it during “Reliable Sources” on Sunday. “Now, to be clear, fake news infects the left and the right,” he noted at one point, “but the evidence indicates this is more of a problem on the right, among some, not all, but some Trump supporters.

He said that researchers needed to look into why people believe the lies they see on the internet. Then he suggested that Trump was the cause, like he was a parent passing on a bad habit to a child. “But I would suggest to you that it starts at the top,” he bemoaned, “After all, Trump himself frequently misled voters during his campaign and he has been personally fooled by fictional stories.

Stelter announced that he was buying into his own confirmation bias, and taking the opinion and the insults of a fake news publisher as fact:

Now, I have a hard time believing any creator of any fake news website but one of them, Paul Horner, spoke with The Washington Post this week and look at what he said, quote, “I think Trump is in the White House because of me. His campaign manager posted my story about a protesting getting paid $3500 as fact. I made that up.” Horner went on to say, “I thought they would fact check it and would make them look worse but Trump supporters - they just keep running with it. They never fact check anything.”

But there was no mention by Stelter about how many people actually believe such stories, or how the premise behind that particular story is based in fact. Project Veritas exposed how a liberal political organization, Democracy Partners, payed for protesters at Trump rallies. Stelter didn’t mention how Scott Foval, who openly and clearly admits to starting “anarchy,” was fired over it.

CNN’s Stelter: Trump Supporters ‘Confused’ by ‘Fake News’ Sites

On a similar note about admitting the truth about stories, on CNN’s New Day Saturday Stelter tried to smear the Media Research Center by including images of two NewsBusters articles during his shtick about fake news. He still has yet to publicly address what he found “fake” about either of them. He didn’t have a problem with the MRC when Rich Noyes was a guest on his show to discuss the media’s hostility to Trump.

Later on, he seemed to condescendingly wag his finger at Trump supporters, saying, “The more media literal you are the less likely you will be tricked by propaganda and that's what it is, propaganda.” “Journalism is also a big part of the solution, as an industry we have to redouble our efforts to restore our credibility,” he stated.

But it’s interesting that Stelter threw around words like “propaganda” and “credibility” when he was called out a week ago for his own liberal bias. Stelter also infamously blamed the firebombing of a GOP campaign office on Trump, but he scolded an Associated Press editor for ‘misleading’ people after exposing how Hillary Clinton gave foundation donors special meetings.

Towards the end of the segment, Stelter seemed to get emotional as he asked, “So, how does this end? With no one trust anything? There's more fact checking than ever, but fewer people trust in the facts. Are we moving more into an authoritarian media climate, more like Russia or China?” But the problem is how the media distorts the facts, either through using unfair labels, omitting news damaging to Democrats, or, in some instances, flat out lying. The media is not a monolithic force for good as Stelter likes to depict it as. The media even makes up their own fake news stories from time to time.

According to the poll conducted by the MRC and YouGov, 70 percent of people view the media as neither honest nor trust worthy. Almost 80 percent say the media was pro-Clinton, and the same goes for almost a third of Clinton supporters.

The public is smarter than they are given credit for, and are very perceptive. So, the fear that fake news is what drove a Trump victory over Clinton is powered by a distrust with the intelligence the public. If Stelter and the media want their credibility back, then they need to show some trust in the public and not just demand that the public trust them. 

CNN
Reliable Sources .
November 20, 2016
11:28:30 AM Eastern

BRIAN STELTER: I've been thinking a lot about confusion and who it helps. Fake news websites set out to confuse people, but they are one only one symptom of a bigger broader disease, a break down in trust, a break down in a shared set of facts. This had been happening well before Donald Trump entered the presidential race but it is now accelerating. We are entering a terrible new age of information warfare and it brings to mind that old adage, “The first casualty of war is the truth.”

This war so to speak is playing out right on your smartphone, right on your Facebook news feed where made up stories spread to millions of people. Here are just a few recent examples. The pope endorsing Trump, fake. Megyn Kelly fired for backing Hillary Clinton, fake. Clinton committed -- Clinton linked to crimes committed by Anthony Weiner, also fake. But that one was tweeted by retired General Michael Flynn, Trump's pick for national security advisor.

This is the kind of BS that Facebook and Twitter and Google all have to grapple with, but we have to grapple with it ourselves individually. Those stories I just mentioned are all pretty easily disproven, they’re the most basic, pure, form of fake news. When I say fake news I mean stories designed to trick people into believing lies, deception 101.

Now, I have a hard time believing any creator of any fake news website but one of them, Paul Horner, spoke with The Washington Post this week and look at what he said, quote, “I think Trump is in the White House because of me. His campaign manager posted my story about a protester getting paid $3500 as fact. I made that up.” Horner went on to say, “I thought they would fact check it and would make them look worse but Trump supporters - they just keep running with it. They never fact check anything.”

Now, to be clear, fake news infects the left and the right. I've seen Clinton supporters sharing fake links, this week, with election related conspiracy theories but the evidence indicates this is more of a problem on the right, among some, not all, but some Trump supporters. Further research is needed to understand why online lies are so appealing to some voters. But I would suggest to you that it starts at the top. After all, Trump himself frequently misled voters during his campaign and he has been personally fooled by fictional stories.

STELTER: Now, the contrast between the next president and the sitting president could not be more extreme. President Obama is deeply concerned about people believing everything they read on the internet.

STELTER: We do have problems. I think everybody feels it right now. One of the problems is that fake news websites are so easy to set up and so profitable for the creators. Every time we click and share they make more money but we are worse off. So Facebook and Google are now trying to choke off the ads that show up on these sites, trying to make them less profitable, but that is a losing battle. These fake news sites are always going to exist. In fact, they're probably going to get better at blending in and looking real. The same goes for hyper partisan blogs and Facebook pages that only tell people what they want to hear. That celebrate their side and demonize the other side.

You know, on this program we used to talk about red news blue news but we are now way beyond just red news and blue news. We are in an environment where some people are choosing to be color-blind. Media literacy is part of the solution here. As a society we need to help each other distinguish between reliable and bogus stories. The more media literal you are the less likely you will be tricked by propaganda and that's what it is, propaganda.

Journalism is also a big part of the solution, as an industry we have to redouble our efforts to restore our credibility. But to tell you the truth these are not satisfying or complete answers to the problem. I don't have complete answers.

STELTER: So, how does this end? With no one trust anything? There's more fact checking than ever, but fewer people trust in the facts. Are we moving more into an authoritarian media climate, more like Russia or China? I don't know. I feel so empty and frankly so pessimistic about this. But I know that people in power all around the world benefit from confusion. They benefit from this confusion. So we must be vigilant as journalists and as Facebook users and as family members at Thanksgiving. Refuse to be confused.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: biasbyomission; brianshelter; donaldtrump; endingthefed; fakenews; media; mediabiasdebate; msm; politicalinsider; trump
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To: ealgeone

Ya. Weren’t they caught feeding questions to Hillary? Clearly THEY can not be trusted.


41 posted on 11/20/2016 6:41:25 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: dp0622

One thing about FR is that fake news and fake websites get called out within about 10 posts.


42 posted on 11/20/2016 6:43:58 PM PST by Hardastarboard (Freedom Trumps Fascism)
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To: Kaslin

It’s a variant of the old Obama dodge when caught lying: “You misunderstood, or I didn’t explain it to you well enough (idiot) or you misheard me or ....”

Yeah, we’re just gullible, stupid and illiterate. Blow me MSM.


43 posted on 11/20/2016 6:46:20 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers, all armed conservatives)
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To: Kaslin

No “confusion.” They just don’t like us figuring out and making decisions based on news and facts from other sources.


44 posted on 11/20/2016 6:46:42 PM PST by madison10 (Pray for President-Elect Trump, VP Elect Pence and their families)
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To: Kaslin

I think this deflection from eventual Pizzagate discoveries. And they’re happening.


45 posted on 11/20/2016 6:50:02 PM PST by struggle (The)
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To: ari-freedom

I have screen shots of his site from around the 14th of September through the early morning of November the 9th. (1-5 times per day)

His odds were pulled from PredictIt.com at least in part.

This was a landmark case proving once and for all that odds markets are far less trustworthy than the polls.

It was my contention that either the Clinton campaign or her supporters threw Money at PredivtIt dot com trying to convince folks there was no way she could lose.

I was so sure of this that I invested $525 and tripled it taking the Leftist money on the table.

They were shooting their mouths off for months ridiculing Conservatives for buying up 20 cent shares, while they were buying up 85 cent shares.

Talk about your satisfying moment, knowing their money is going in your pocket.

Very very cool...


46 posted on 11/20/2016 6:51:14 PM PST by DoughtyOne (jcon40, "Are we be coming into the age of Sanity?")
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To: Kaslin

Pot calling the kettle back.


47 posted on 11/20/2016 6:52:49 PM PST by tapatio (In memory of my Dad 5-27-26 2-4-2010 and Mom 4-20-26 12-8-2012)
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To: Hardastarboard

Exactly.

And We do it for this very reason. We don’t like seeing our folks conned.


48 posted on 11/20/2016 6:53:05 PM PST by DoughtyOne (jcon40, "Are we be coming into the age of Sanity?")
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To: DoughtyOne

This was a ‘sure’ thing...a lot of money was probably lost on this


49 posted on 11/20/2016 6:53:31 PM PST by ari-freedom (The Social Justice War is over and we won!)
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To: SaveFerris

That was definitely fake news being broadcast on ABC election night. The idiots didn’t know why Mike Pence was at Trump hq because they were yammering about how Hillary could still win.

They started their night with “Whassup America. Let’s elect a president.” After Trump won, they started saying he had raped a 13 year old.

Real news site there.


50 posted on 11/20/2016 6:54:25 PM PST by Luke21
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To: ari-freedom

I had 2200 shares going into the evening. Things were looking iffy, so I sold at $0.84 cents per share. Not a bad haul on $0.22 per share invested.

If I would have held out, I would have made around $300 bucks more.

Considered myself lucky. No problem at all.

Someone had bought shares at around $0.84 cents going into the evening.

Boy was there a lot of scrambling going on.

The groan heard round the world, LOL.


51 posted on 11/20/2016 7:01:14 PM PST by DoughtyOne (jcon40, "Are we be coming into the age of Sanity?")
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
The sycophant media doesn't understand how they failed to bring home the election for Hillary. They are taking shots at everyone, especially the alternate media. Too bad for the sycophants that millions of people can turn to different sources instead of listening to liberal propaganda. They will try to close down the alternative sources. I can already see it coming.
52 posted on 11/20/2016 7:03:33 PM PST by peeps36 (Obama = the skidmark on America's underwear.)
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To: Hardastarboard

True but the first nine posts by those who didn’t read the article are hysterical in retrospect :)

I’ve been one of them!


53 posted on 11/20/2016 7:08:29 PM PST by dp0622 (IThe only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: Nabber
I remember exactly when the fake news started: “If you like your plan, you can keep your plan...”

Fake news goes back even farther than this: "A lone gunman fired three shots from behind which killed President Kennedy and wounded Governor Connally."

It used to be so easy to lie to Americans, but they are BEGINNING to wise up.

54 posted on 11/20/2016 7:08:47 PM PST by politicianslie (What would a terrorist do if he were made POTUS? : Exactly what Hussein Obama is doing)
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To: Kaslin

As far as I can tell, most of the fake news sites are run by liberals. Their intent is 1) to bait conservatives into repeating the fake stories thereby making them look like idiots, and 2) to sow confusion and divert attention away from actual liberal misdeeds. By and large conservatives don’t engage in that kind of trickery against liberals. So this guy is taking a problem mostly created by his fellow liberal jackasses and blaming it on Trump and Trump supporters.


55 posted on 11/20/2016 7:09:34 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: Bringbackthedraft

Opinions aren’t facts, and all I ever see from the MSM is mostly opinions.>>> agree there is no such a thing as news. there are just facts. now we can go the source ans see what people actually say or do.... msm is done.


56 posted on 11/20/2016 7:15:35 PM PST by kvanbrunt2 (all your base are belong to us)
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To: Kaslin

Ah. It was fake news that got Trump elected.

Not eight years of a arrogant, divisive, lying, corrosive, marxist, racist, criminal, treasonous, anti-American, globalist President and administration that did it.

It was fake news. Check. Got it.


57 posted on 11/20/2016 7:18:24 PM PST by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: timestax

Been on to old Jake Tapper for a long time now. He’s smooth but can’t hide it all.

As for Wolf Blitzer, hahahahahahahahaha .... who believes that guy?


58 posted on 11/20/2016 7:37:47 PM PST by SaveFerris (Hebrews 13:2 Do not forget to entertain strangers, for ... some have unwittingly entertained angels)
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To: Kaslin

What a hypocrite! CNN is the biggest fake news outlet in the world, you bald-headed little pr*ck.


59 posted on 11/20/2016 7:38:05 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Kaslin

Hillary supporters confused by reality.


60 posted on 11/20/2016 7:43:07 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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