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Ex-US general: We pay a price for backing Israel (James Mattis)
The Times of Israel ^ | July 25, 2013 | Lazar Berman

Posted on 11/20/2016 4:57:39 PM PST by ari-freedom

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To: ari-freedom

Yea Jimmy, everyone pays a price for believing truth, but the rewards of truth are eternal life. The reward for political correctness is hellfire (broad is the way that leads to destruction)


21 posted on 11/20/2016 5:16:34 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: thinden

2013


22 posted on 11/20/2016 5:18:26 PM PST by ari-freedom (The Social Justice War is over and we won!)
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To: ari-freedom

It’s “Times of Israel”, people. Sheesh can’t you see a head-shot taken by the other side?


23 posted on 11/20/2016 5:22:06 PM PST by Tallguy
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To: Pelham

Caspar Weinberger was no friend of Israel when he was Secretary of Defense and this put unnecessary and destructive pressure on the US-Israel relationship.

I hope President Trump makes another choice as Secretary of Defense.


24 posted on 11/20/2016 5:25:17 PM PST by Piranha (Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have - Saul Alinsky)
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To: Tallguy

The Aspen Conference is on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5Un0NUmGRk


25 posted on 11/20/2016 5:26:57 PM PST by ari-freedom (The Social Justice War is over and we won!)
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To: Piranha

In fashion did Reagan let Weinberger set our Israel policy?


26 posted on 11/20/2016 5:27:53 PM PST by Pelham (the refusal to Deport is defacto Amnesty)
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To: ari-freedom

Wow. Just wow. I was all gung ho about this guy....but then what do I know.

He wont get Sec of Defense...Trump is pro Israel and his dtr and son in law are Jewish...they sure would know about this.

wow, time for me to educate myself more!!!


27 posted on 11/20/2016 5:29:55 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN)
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To: ari-freedom

What he said is just the truth. There’s a price- but it’s well compensated.
That’s how foreign affairs are done.
At the time of his speech in July 2013 Egypt’s military has just overthrown the Muslim Brotherhood government and Egypt/Israel cooperation- the basis of any Israeli peace- was in flux.


28 posted on 11/20/2016 5:31:51 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: ari-freedom
General Eisenhower 1944: We pay a price for backing the United Kingdom. < /sarc>

Or is that dancing dangerously close to enacting Godwin's law?

29 posted on 11/20/2016 5:32:05 PM PST by KarlInOhio (" T'was the witch of November come stealin' " And who could the stealing Witch of November be? Hmm?)
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To: ari-freedom

This is a hit piece on Mattis. He happens to be right.

Israel knows how to look after its own interests. All of the posters on this thread who claim that Israel is our natural ally need to explain Jonathan Pollard and the great damage he did to our national security.

And only the uninformed would call Mattis a friend of radical Islam.

What this is about is putting America’s interests FIRST.


30 posted on 11/20/2016 5:32:21 PM PST by independentmind
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To: ari-freedom

This is a hit piece on Mattis. He happens to be right.

Israel knows how to look after its own interests. All of the posters on this thread who claim that Israel is our natural ally need to explain Jonathan Pollard and the great damage he did to our national security.

And only the uninformed would call Mattis a friend of radical Islam.

What this is about is putting America’s interests FIRST.


31 posted on 11/20/2016 5:32:21 PM PST by independentmind
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To: ari-freedom
“I paid a military security price every day as the commander of CentCom because the Americans were seen as biased in support of Israel, and that moderates all the moderate Arabs who want to be with us, because they can’t come out publicly in support of people who don’t show respect for the Arab Palestinians,”

1) Military Security problem - True

2) Why? "because the Americans were seen as biased in support of Israel [by the Arabs] - True

3) Result? "...moderates - all the moderate Arabs who want to be with us... can’t come out publicly in support of people who don’t show respect for the Arab Palestinians,” - True

This was an assessment of the situation he faced as CentCom commander, not a State Department policy paper. If you were to make a similar assessment of your situation as a police chief describing "community relations" on Chicago's South Side, you would come to similar conclusiions. You would also immediately be labeled "RACIST" by half of the Press & politicians and "N***** - Lover" by the other half.

Freepers, "Don't Shoot the Messenger".

32 posted on 11/20/2016 5:32:37 PM PST by BwanaNdege
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To: ari-freedom

Muslims rate the respect the Koran shows to non-Muslims, taking abrogation fully into account of course.


33 posted on 11/20/2016 5:33:15 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: BwanaNdege

It is true and a lot of people in the military know it.


34 posted on 11/20/2016 5:35:37 PM PST by independentmind
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“all the moderate Arabs who want to be with us, because they can’t come out publicly in support”

I love friends who only support me in private, and reserve the right to oppose me in public./s

And maybe Mattis needed a little backbone to stand up for OUR friends, the good guys, the Israelis. Even a cursory look at the Arab Israeli conflict shows that there is not agreement, land handed over, NOTHING that will stop the Arab aggression.
The Israelis handed over Gaza as a modern turnkey city with infrastructure intact. All Jews were forcibly removed. There were giant greenhouses. There were utilities and water supplies. There was a beautiful beach.
What did the Palestinians do? Trash it all and start launching an -endless- barrage of rockets.

No, Mattis was not an honest assessor, he was an idiot to pretend that we would gain a single friend, or have a single day of peace if a two state solution was reached.


35 posted on 11/20/2016 5:39:25 PM PST by DesertRhino (November 8, America's Brexit!!!)
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To: ari-freedom

You always pay a price for doing the right thing


36 posted on 11/20/2016 5:39:41 PM PST by Hambone 1934
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To: ari-freedom

It is now respectable after Obama to be an open anti Zionist and be a Democrat in good standing. Soon the American consensus on Israel will begin to fracture as the General’s position becomes a Democratic core belief. It is not surprising that Keith Ellison, who is openly pro Palestinian and anti Israel, is a serious candidate for DNC chairman.


37 posted on 11/20/2016 5:40:43 PM PST by allendale
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To: ari-freedom

Thanks for your 3 year old opinion, Jim, but now go buy us some ships and reopen the F-22 assembly line.


38 posted on 11/20/2016 5:41:04 PM PST by muleskinner
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To: ari-freedom

Thanx.


39 posted on 11/20/2016 5:43:00 PM PST by thinden
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To: ari-freedom

As the CG of CENTCOM, he dealt almost exclusively with Muslim Arab countries. Israel falls into EUCOM’s AOR. He had a job to do, and I’m sure America’s support of Israel (as tepid as that’s been over the years, certainly in 2010) caused numerous headaches for him.


40 posted on 11/20/2016 5:46:34 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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