Who knew?
Posted on 11/19/2016 5:44:24 AM PST by jimbug
In what will hopefully be one of the final acts of the Obama Administration on firearms, the ATF on Monday announced that its proposed changes to the Form 4473 would go into effect on January 16, 2017, just four days before the inauguration of President-Elect Donald Trump.
Form 4473 is the federally mandated form that must be filled out by any person who acquires a firearm from a licensed dealer....
Another notable change to the form is the inclusion of a bolded warning to potential transferees from ATF.
The warning provides that “the use or possession of marijuana remains unlawful under Federal law regardless of whether it has been legalized or decriminalized for medical or recreational purposes in the state where you reside.”
This warning is a continuation of ATF’s policy that was first published in an open letter on September 21, 2011.
Under ATF’s policy, not only are users of marijuana prohibited from possessing firearms, but a person may not transfer a firearm to an individual if the transferor knows that the transferee holds a medical marijuana card.
Importantly, this second prohibition applies even where the cardholder does not actually use any marijuana.
(Excerpt) Read more at nraila.org ...
And it matters not that the federal government has no such authority..
Why not? Art. I, Sec 8 of the Constitution delegates power over immigration and borders to fedgov.
Where is fedgov delegated power to infringe on the RKBA of citizens acting legally under state law?
Who knew?
Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms... Throw in a couple bags of chips and we’d have the making of a pretty good party..
Where I come from, this is a typical Friday night.
“With any luck, he will appoint a head of ATF to drain the swamp.”
Organization theory predicts that organizations can only get bigger. Typically, when somebody heads an organization they conflate the size and power of the organization to their own importance. To be more important they immediately start growing their empire, collecting new mandates and engaging in mission creep. It would be the unusual man indeed, regardless of his politics, if he accepted a job and then scaled back his organization to its original mandate, or eliminated it entirely.
Nanorobots,,
My thoughts Exactly!
Alcohol+Tobacco+ firearms = convenience store.
Not a government agency.
CC
You are correct. But the BATF seems to be a weird exception. For example, they lobbied Congress to make eliminate 80% of the firearm dealers that they regulated, instead of asking for the manpower to regulate them better.
Maybe President Trump should come up with a new rule, say:
Any Person with a Known History of using Illegal Drugs, shall be prohibited from having anyone in their employ or employed on their behalf to be in possession of Any Forearm, Weapon, or Ammunition.
Watch them LOSE THEIR MINDS when Obama is DENIED SS PROTECTION because of his past Admitted Drug use.
oops, Firearm not forearm
I guess the flip side is the irony that it actually steps on the rights of even more leftists who are far more likely to get "medical" marijuana for pure recreational reasons....
ATF needs to be on a shortening leash (along with the EPA) until they gasp their last breaths and no longer have the ability to arbitrarily step on Constitutional rights by fiat...
Part of draining the swamp will be the neutering of the agencies/services that now impose "rules" that have no constitutional value.
So they’re saying that Gary Johnson voters can’t buy guns?
“and mj is still illegal federally they are correct.”
How many cases of possession of small amounts of MJ has the fed prosecuted recently. I would venture none. Furthermore, the DOJ has a policy of not enforcing MJ laws for possession of small amounts in any state where it has been decriminalized.
IMO, to follow the federal laws as they relate to firearms but not to anything else as it relates to MJ makes the matter uninforceable even if they want to do it. Lastly, how would one know whether someone has a medical MJ card?? Would that not be a privacy violation on its face.
Well, if Hillary Clinton is Pardoned instead of hanged or imprisoned for the traitor that she is, we are no longer a Nation of Laws. We will be a Nation where the laws are to control the peasants and the powerful can do as they damn well please , without fear of repucussions.
Why not change it to ALCOHOL, SMOKES, and SHOOTING. ASS.
My man, you are always such a voice of reason here. Cheers.
Federal civil agencies should be disarmed with the exception of the US Marshall Service(when operating in a nonstate area) and the Secret Service(when operating as bodyguards).
“For example, they lobbied Congress to make eliminate 80% of the firearm dealers that they regulated, instead of asking for the manpower to regulate them better.”
It is probable that for political reasons, control, they want fewer dealers. This in no way would make them smaller. They would enhance the more jackbooted sections of their mission with more people and equipment. If I recall, it was BATF that went after the folks at Waco. They had to surrender control to the FBI after they had failed with huge losses. The entire operation at Waco was unnecessary as the local sheriff told them if they wanted Koresh all they had to do was pick him up on his morning jog. But they wanted to show their might and firepower more than they wanted to arrest a single man with little or no firepower display. In other words, they wanted to display the necessity of the manpower and firepower. Power is no fun if you don’t use it.
So the ATF is violating the spirit of The Americans With Disabilities Act. Ain’t that prejudiced?
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