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Trump victory gives impetus to California secession movement
CBSNEWS.COM ^ | November 10, 2016 | CBS

Posted on 11/10/2016 5:33:42 PM PST by Morgana

SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- Donald Trump’s election as president is giving a big social-media boost to an unlikely effort in the nation’s most populous state: a plan to vote on seceding from the union.

The Yes California Independence Campaign hopes to put a question on the November 2018 ballot that would authorize a statewide independence vote for the spring of 2019.

The effort drew little attention until Tuesday’s election, which also kept Trump’s fellow Republicans in charge of Congress and raised the possibility of a conservative shift on the U.S. Supreme Court.

Any effort to get an issue on the ballot requires the gathering of hundreds of thousands of signatures.

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TOPICS: Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2018; 201811; 2019; alexanderionov; ca2016; caleavefornia; calexit; california; electoralvotes; fsb; fsbmeddling; ionov; louismarinelli; marinelli; newcalifornia; russiacollusion; russianmeddling; secession; secessionists; timdraper; uhurumovement; ycic; yescalifornia
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To: Morgana

I could go for it with one condition:

Citizens of Taxifornia are not permitted to vote for at least 6 years or 2 presidential elections.

-Whichever comes last.


21 posted on 11/10/2016 5:55:29 PM PST by Only1choice____Freedom (As long as America's tolerence of failure is not overwhelmed by a desire to succeed, we will fail.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I believe in the right of self determination.If the people of California want to secede, who are we to stand in their way? If there is a popular vote (I do believe secession should be more than a majority,maybe 60%) and the state decides to leave, go in peace. A seceding state should be required to repay their share of the national debt over some period of years and the federal land within the state’s border subject to a negotiated settlement. I think we need a Constitutional amendment to layout the process.


22 posted on 11/10/2016 5:58:51 PM PST by wfu_deacons
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To: Morgana

Can we build another wall separating the new Republic (I use that word lightly) of California from the USA after we finish the other one?

Then send the bill to Cook of Apple.


23 posted on 11/10/2016 5:58:51 PM PST by Sapwolf (Talkers are usually more articulate than doers, since talk is their specialty. -Sowell)
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To: DoughtyOne

I’m from CA.

You’ll have to do better than that.


24 posted on 11/10/2016 6:00:17 PM PST by Sapwolf (Talkers are usually more articulate than doers, since talk is their specialty. -Sowell)
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To: Sapwolf

I don’t have to. Thanks.


25 posted on 11/10/2016 6:01:24 PM PST by DoughtyOne (The morning and the evening were the election day. People voted. The Lord saw, and it was good.)
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To: wfu_deacons

Thanks for your thoughts.


26 posted on 11/10/2016 6:02:24 PM PST by DoughtyOne (The morning and the evening were the election day. People voted. The Lord saw, and it was good.)
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To: Morgana

How can I help?


27 posted on 11/10/2016 6:02:45 PM PST by scottinoc
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To: forgotten man

Actually you could probably carve out the coastal areas between the two cities, and then they can absorb all the debt they have incurred. The rest of the state can then start living again.


28 posted on 11/10/2016 6:04:47 PM PST by Yulee (Village of Albion)
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To: Morgana

All federal lands will have to remain with US. Otherwise it’s Fort Sumter all over again.

Plus we can cut off all the electric, gas and water if they don’t pay the higher rates. And some tariffs on goods and services going in and coming out.

This could be some serious fun.


29 posted on 11/10/2016 6:05:01 PM PST by fella ("As this was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Morgana

All federal lands will have to remain with US. Otherwise it’s Fort Sumter all over again.

Plus we can cut off all the electric, gas and water if they don’t pay the higher rates. And some tariffs on goods and services going in and coming out.

This could be some serious fun.


30 posted on 11/10/2016 6:05:02 PM PST by fella ("As this was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Morgana

All federal lands will have to remain with US. Otherwise it’s Fort Sumter all over again.

Plus we can cut off all the electric, gas and water if they don’t pay the higher rates. And some tariffs on goods and services going in and coming out.

This could be some serious fun.


31 posted on 11/10/2016 6:05:19 PM PST by fella ("As this was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Morgana

Who wants a communist country on our western border, mostly controlling our North American coastline?


32 posted on 11/10/2016 6:06:15 PM PST by Crucial
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To: Morgana

Why wait so long...do it now.


33 posted on 11/10/2016 6:07:18 PM PST by Gator113 (Vote TRUMP!! -- "Because you'd be in Jail!" ~ LOCK HER UP! ~)
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To: Morgana

Why wait so long...do it now.


34 posted on 11/10/2016 6:07:24 PM PST by Gator113 (Vote TRUMP!! -- "Because you'd be in Jail!" ~ LOCK HER UP! ~)
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To: vladimir998

Warm beachfront property without libs....I like the idea.


35 posted on 11/10/2016 6:09:09 PM PST by Gator113 (Vote TRUMP!! -- "Because you'd be in Jail!" ~ LOCK HER UP! ~)
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To: forgotten man
Can we just get rid of Los Angeles and San Francisco...

Sounds like a plan. Make them self- sustaining quasi nation, they can pay their bills by taxing plastic bags at $100.00 a piece. See ya, Liberal Lunatics!

Let the rest of CA that has some very strong Red areas have the rest!!!!

36 posted on 11/10/2016 6:09:16 PM PST by 444Flyer (How long O LORD?)
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To: DoughtyOne

Hey FRiend, if you see my posts on this thread, please know I am just screwing around.


37 posted on 11/10/2016 6:11:40 PM PST by Gator113 (Vote TRUMP!! -- "Because you'd be in Jail!" ~ LOCK HER UP! ~)
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To: Morgana

This is Reconquista. Mexico is taking back California in a covert manner. It doesn’t even have to declare it. It will just happen with a wink and a nod.


38 posted on 11/10/2016 6:12:20 PM PST by Crucial
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To: Morgana
Trump victory gives impetus to California secession movement

As lifelong Californian the only useful impetus I can think of is the elimination of most of the California Legislature, and the State courts...

Without question the most corrupt, stupid(as in dull), most ignorant about science, human nature, history both contemporary and older, the Constitution and the creation of the exceptional most successful Republic in all of human history.

Many of us in the land of fruits and nuts are seriously working on that list.

One very long list to go with prejudice, and, sadly, a much shorter one for the existing California Legislature members who are gratefully invited to remain...

39 posted on 11/10/2016 6:16:48 PM PST by publius911 (IMPEACH HIM NOW evil, stupid, insane ignorant or just clueless, doesn't matter!)
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To: Morgana

Hell, let them go. They can become part of Mexico. They will take Hollywood with them. The illegal sanctuary state will solve their illegal problem cause the will be Mexican citizens. Seems it is a win win win situation. We can also tax them for importing their technology. Northern Calif wants to separate from Calif, so if Oregon goes too, they can charge a tarriff for travel between Oregon and S Calif. There are some problems, but nothing undoable.


40 posted on 11/10/2016 6:16:51 PM PST by falcon99
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