Posted on 11/06/2016 6:19:01 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
Putin's new 'super tank': British intelligence warns Russian vehicle is 'the most revolutionary change in tank design in the last half century' and leaves the West totally outgunned
British military intelligence officers have issued a warning over a new Russian 'super tank' which they claim is far superior to anything which is available to Nato.
The document claims that Britain's Challenger II main battle tank could be overpowered by the Kremlin's new Armata tank.
Officials believe the new Russian tank is 'revolutionary' and blames the government for failing to provide a proper response.
The current policy is to not consider a new main battle tank for at least 20 years as heavy armour is not suited to countering the threat posed by lightly-armed Jihadis.
According to the Sunday Telegraph, the internal military document said: 'Without hyperbole, Armata represents the most revolutionary step change in tank design in the last half century.'
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The size and speed are very impressive... But a drone would likely take it out with ease.... My apologies to the calvary fans, but ground warfare (with the exception of patrol and clean-up operations) is becoming a thing of the past. The future of war is drone technology and air calvary and the sad part is... It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to build, run or operate a drone.
So it’s just a matter of time before subversive groups like ISIS, et al establish units capable of striking back with drones. The oddity in my mind is that at present, they seemingly still prefer a dude with a suicide belt instead of a drone. Hopefully suicide belts remains their preferred method but it’s just a matter of time before some of the bad guys figure out that a drone they can buy or build for a couple of hundred dollars, is preferable to killing off their believers one by one.
The Russian tankers who used both the T-34 and the M-4 Sherman in WWII said the American tank was of far better quality.
I see lots of ‘could’, ‘Russians say’, ‘would like’.
And nothing actually looks revolutionary.
I wonder what is more cost efficient; a new tank or a modern guided missile to take it out???
Exactly.
Drones + satellites > tanks
Oops... cavalry. My apologies... Spell check sucks!
There were positive things about the Sherman.
Mechanical quality was definitely a plus, but by late 1943, the standard Sherman M4 was obsolete. The biggest reason was due to the low velocity (Low by anti-tank standards!) 75 mm gun. It was basically a upgraded WW1 French 75!
Relatively thin armor & high profile also didn’t help.
Can a big rig weighing 80,000 lbs go 10% faster than one weighing 70,000 when they have the same horsepower? I doubt it. I understand that as with specialized locomotives designed to pull heavy loads up a steep grade cannot reach the same top speed as a passenger locomotive built for more level terrain, that horsepower alone does not determine top end speed. However there is nothing to suggest that anything like that is at play here.
My worry is that some of us take our military for granted and are complacent. If there us ever a confrontation, we might not come out ahead and it will mean American casualties.
unless Hillary had a copy on her server.
Tank having better suspension/tracks can go faster.
How long can the new Russian tank sustain the top speed? How fast can it go over a rough terrain?
Russians had designed several very fast aircraft in the past, however after flying at top speed they required lots of maintenance (not well designed to take punishment of running at full power for extended period of time)
The bottom line here IMHO is that the Soviets, oops, I mean the Russians along with the Chinese NORKS, Iran, Hizbollah and many others are working tirelessly to produce new designs, new concepts and new MBTs and aircraft) to field in the future.
They're not perfect, nor 100% reliable but America's enemies are working around the clock to come up with improvements.
All this while America and the West slide towards apathy, budget cuts and infighting...we are LAGGING seriously behind.
...sorry, “malfunctions”.
Yes that’s true, but I was responding to the poster’s comments on Russian quality. The Russian tankers themselves recognized the superiority of American build quality, including the ammunition.
I am not going to argue that the Sherman was a better tank than the T-34, but many details of Sherman production get lost in tales of “Ronsons” and “Tommy cookers.” Including the M4A3E2 Jumbo model that had much heavier armor and in some cases the more powerful 76 mm gun.
Twenty-three kilometers per hour better? That’s one hell of a suspension upgrade, especially one that gets no mention in the article.
Yeah but becoming a martyr is wrapped up in their religious outlook. The paradise of 72 virgins and all that so yeah they still like sacrificial aspect of it all.
That was a malfunction...
Limitation of 75/76 mm was a policy decision. The Israelis showed that you could put. 90 mm gun on a Sherman.
If its only $8 million per tank we should just buy up every one coming off the production line.
Can always resell them on Cragslist to turd world nations.
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