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The Visual Guide to Disputing Media Polling
American Thinker ^ | October 28, 2016 | Seth Keshel

Posted on 10/28/2016 12:29:45 AM PDT by Az Joe

To believe recent mainstream media polling releases, one would have to suspend reality enough to believe that John Podesta's email leaks, the ongoing Project Veritas video series, a world on fire, and new revelations about Obamacare are driving the public to embrace Hillary Clinton as never before.  Things are apparently so good for the former first lady that ABC has her with a 12-point lead, a margin not seen in a presidential election since 1984.  CNN is less confident but still has her sporting a comfortable 5-point lead.  Fox News has wavered between "too close to call" and the current 3-point edge that is contingent on her achieving President Obama's D+7 support level from 2008, which borders on complete insanity.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: media; polling
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Excellent article, with excellent graphics
1 posted on 10/28/2016 12:29:45 AM PDT by Az Joe
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To: Az Joe

Polls are way off.

We already know from early voting D +7 is too absurd to maintain.

D +9, D +10, D +11 is entering into fantasy territory.

Which says a lot about massive confirmation bias omnipresent in the MSM.


2 posted on 10/28/2016 12:38:56 AM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: Az Joe

“This election will either be tight in favor of either candidate or will be a blowout in favor of Trump.  For the reasons stated above and backed up with maps, I do not anticipate Trump being steamrolled.”

“Do not allow the media to steal this election without a fight.”


3 posted on 10/28/2016 12:40:31 AM PDT by Az Joe (Desu Hoc Vult!! The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time....)
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To: Az Joe

If only the media had a vote, Hillary would already be President.

People don’t buy their marketing on her behalf.

Hopefully, their wish won’t come true.


4 posted on 10/28/2016 12:47:09 AM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: goldstategop

2012: D+6
2008: D+7
2004: Even
2000: D+4
1996: D+5
1992: D+3
1988: D+2

Only 2004 showed the DEMs at less than +3. Bush was an incumbent. Kerry an uninspiring choice to replace him. So, 2004 was either an outlier or hope for this election, because the general trend has been a slightly increasing DEM advantage.


5 posted on 10/28/2016 12:48:43 AM PDT by CatOwner
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To: Az Joe

I totally ignore the MSM and most poll threads, i’m not feeding on the paid poll trolls meal ticket.

Already voted, done deal. Paper ballot and i took a photo of it.


6 posted on 10/28/2016 12:54:09 AM PDT by Daniel Ramsey
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To: CatOwner

2008 and 2012 were exceptional because of Obama - he had great personal appeal that transcended partisan, ideological and racial lines. That’s why D turnout was off the charts.

In contrast, Hillary isn’t likable, is another dreary hard core very left-wing Democrat and a result of that is voting patterns are returning to pre-2008 levels.

Much of the Democratic advantage has turned out to be a transient phenomenon. There is no Obama coalition and neither 2008 nor 2012 were a realignment election.


7 posted on 10/28/2016 12:54:10 AM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: Az Joe

The media has turned into a Pravda type machine with the exception of a very few number of reporters/commentators at Fox. I have been watching OANN One America News Network.


8 posted on 10/28/2016 12:56:00 AM PDT by Evil Slayer ((Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war....))
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To: CatOwner
2008 was unique because we had the (irrational) exuberance over the potential for the first black president.

2012 is atypical also because we still had the very highly motivated black vote combined with a weak, liberal Republican candidate who caused several million Republican voters to stay home in disgust.

Throw out those two aberrations and the remainder indicates an average of only slightly more than D +2.

9 posted on 10/28/2016 12:59:21 AM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: CatOwner

Hillary’s an uninspiring candidate. Add to that the lack of support from the Bernie voters and the steady barrage from Wikileaks and Project Veritas and you have an exasperated dem electorate.

Hillary will not get a 2008 or even 2012 turnout.


10 posted on 10/28/2016 1:00:32 AM PDT by jazminerose (Adorable Deplorable)
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To: jazminerose

Yup - Obama is like the Democrat Eisenhower - he just captured the kind of country America wanted to be - a land of racial harmony, opportunity and abundance.

None of those hopes have materialized and Obama’s legacy isn’t anything to write home about. This election is a lot like 1960.

And Trump resembles Kennedy and Hillary is a lot like Nixon.


11 posted on 10/28/2016 1:05:00 AM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: Evil Slayer

Is that a broadcast network or an internet site?


12 posted on 10/28/2016 1:05:07 AM PDT by Az Joe (Desu Hoc Vult!! The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time....)
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To: goldstategop

Quite a feint needed there. Trump keeps growing, Hillary keeps shrinking. Trump is bringing out new voters like no other recent GOP candidate since Ronald Reagan — I wonder if the modern GOTV (like Google’s) might end up with a net tie, at best, between Trump and Hillary votes.


13 posted on 10/28/2016 1:12:18 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Az Joe

Thank you for posting. That was very helpful.


14 posted on 10/28/2016 1:13:16 AM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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To: jazminerose

The factor we don’t quite know is the Democrat part of the vote pumped by manipulation, fraud, or fear, rather than by people concluding that Hillary is best on her own merits.


15 posted on 10/28/2016 1:14:09 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Hillary’s main problem is she has no human warmth, no charisma and no affability.

Not being able to connect to people on a personal level is why she’s behind - forget about everything else if people don’t like you.

If there is a warm and personable Hillary, no one has seen her.

People would be turning out to see her if she was.


16 posted on 10/28/2016 1:16:41 AM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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To: Evil Slayer

And this could backfire among the set of voters who are of a mind already to chuck Hillary aside. If it looks competitive, they will have a greater motive to get out and vote “HELL no” to Hillary.


17 posted on 10/28/2016 1:16:51 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: goldstategop

She has a superficial charming chirpiness and that’s about it. Other than that, it’s a mix of nonsense with shuck and jive.


18 posted on 10/28/2016 1:17:53 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: lefty-lie-spy

It makes sense doesn’t it? something is wrong in the polling that being shoved down America’s throat! We’ve got to keep everyone’s spirit up.


19 posted on 10/28/2016 1:18:38 AM PDT by Az Joe (Desu Hoc Vult!! The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time....)
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To: CatOwner

Part of this is jaded GOP (each Dem+ is a GOP- too).

Where are all the folks who loved Bernie? Have they just dissolved? It’s almost like they not only accented D, but a particular subset of D.


20 posted on 10/28/2016 1:20:58 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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