Posted on 10/27/2016 3:32:17 AM PDT by cartan
Talking to Camille Paglia is like approaching a machine gun: madness to stick your head up and ask a question, unless you want your brain blown apart by the answer, but a visceral delight to watch as she obliterates every subject in sight. Most of the time she does this for kicks. Its only on turning to Hillary Clinton that she perpetrates an actual murder: of Clinton IIs most cherished claim, that her becoming 45th president of the United States would represent a feminist triumph.
In order to run for president of the United States, you have to spend two or three years of your life out on the road constantly asking for money and most women find that life too harsh, too draining, Paglia argues. That is why we havent had a woman president in the United States not because we havent been ready for one, for heavens sakes, for a very long time
Hillary hasnt suffered Paglia continues because she is a woman. She has shamelessly exploited the fact: Its an outrage how shes played the gender card. She is a woman without accomplishment. I sponsored or co-sponsored 400 bills. Oh really? These were bills to rename bridges and so forth. And the things she has accomplished have been like the destabilisation of North Africa, causing refugees to flood into Italy The woman is a disaster!
Not that Paglia was always opposed to the Clintons. She voted for Bill Clinton twice before becoming revolted by the treatment meted out to Monica Lewinsky: One of the very first interviews I did here the headline was Kind of a bitch why I like Hillary Clinton. My jaundiced view of her is entirely the result of observing her behaviour. And last election, I voted for Jill Steins Green party. So I have already voted for a woman president.
As far as most feminists are concerned, such a view is unconscionable. Gloria Steinem and Madeleine Albright made it their business to castigate American girls who wanted Bernie Sanders, while Madonna has promised a blowjob for every Clinton vote. Professor Paglia does not seem to mind much if she makes herself violently unpopular with her contemporaries shes an expert at it. Currently professor of the humanities at the University of the Arts in Philadelphia, she first shot to fame in 1990 with the publication of Sexual Personae a manuscript turned down by seven publishers before it became a bestseller.
Paglias feminism has always been concerned with issues far beyond her own navel and the Hillary verdict is typical of her attitude which is more in touch with women in the real world than most feminists (a majority of Americans, for example, have an unfavourable view of Hillary Clinton according to recent polling).
My philosophy of feminism, the New York-born 69-year-old explains, I call street-smart Amazon feminism. Im from an immigrant family. The way I was brought up was: the world is a dangerous place; you must learn to defend yourself. You cant be a fool. You have to stay alert. Today, she suggests, middle-class girls are being reared in a precisely contrary fashion: cosseted, indulged and protected from every evil, they become helpless victims when confronted by adversity. We are rocketing backwards here to the Victorian period with this belief that women are not capable of making decisions on their own. This is not feminism which is to achieve independent thought and action. There will never be equality of the sexes if we think that women are so handicapped they cant look after themselves.
Paglia traces the roots of this belief system to American campus culture and the cult of womens studies. This poison as she calls it has spread worldwide. In London, you now have this plague of female journalists who dont seem to have made a deep study of anything
Paglia does not sleep with men but she is, very refreshingly, in favour of them. She never moans about the patriarchy but freely asserts that manmade capitalism has enabled her to write her books.
As for male/female relations, she says that they are far more complex than most feminists insist. I wrote a date-rape essay in 1991 in which I called for women to stand up for themselves and learn how to handle men. But now you have this shibboleth, No means no. Well, no. Sometimes No means Not yet. Sometimes No means Too soon. Sometimes No means Keep trying and maybe yes. You can see it with the pigeons on the grass. The male pursues the female and she turns away, and turns away, and he looks a fool but he keeps on pursuing her. And maybe shes testing his persistence; the strength of his genes Its a pattern in the animal kingdom a courtship pattern But for pointing such things out, Paglia adds, she has been defamed, attacked and viciously maligned so, no, she is not in the least surprised that wolf-whistling has now been designated a hate crime in Birmingham.
Girls would be far better advised to revert to the brave feminist approach of her generation when women were encouraged to fight all their battles by themselves, and win. Germaine Greer was once in this famous debate with Norman Mailer at Town Hall. Mailer was formidable, enormously famous powerful. And she just laid into him: I was expecting a hard, nuggety sort of man and he was positively blousy Now that shows a power of speech that cuts men up. And this is the way women should be dealing with men finding their weaknesses and susceptibilities not bringing in an army of pseudo, proxy parents to put them down for you so you can preserve your perfect girliness.
In an hours non-stop talking, Professor Paglia is only lost when asked which younger feminists she would pass the baton to. I would love to inspire dissident young feminists to realise that this brand of feminism is not all feminism she says, before citing Germaine Greer as the woman she admires most alive, and Amelia Earhart and Katharine Hepburn as heroines alas dead.
As with Greer, it is Paglias power of speech that utterly devastates. Her collected works read like a dictionary of vicious quotations. (Leaving sex to the feminists? Like letting your dog vacation at the taxidermist. Lena Dunham? Shes a big pile of pudding.) Paglia is pro-liberty, propornography, pro-prostitutes and anti- any and all special treatment when it comes to women in power: I do not believe in quotas of any kind. Scandinavian countries are going in that direction and its an insult to women the idea that you need a quota. Which brings us back to Hillary and the so-called victory her re-entering the White House would represent: If Hillary wins, nothing will change. She knows the bureaucracy, all the offices of government and thats what she likes to do, sit behind the scenes and manipulate the levers of power.
Paglia says she has absolutely no idea how the election will go: But people want change and theyre sick of the establishment so you get this great popular surge, like you had one as well This idea that Trump represents such a threat to western civilisation its often predicted about presidents and nothing ever happens yet if Trump wins it will be an amazing moment of change because it would destroy the power structure of the Republican party, the power structure of the Democratic party and destroy the power of the media. It would be an incredible release of energy at a moment of international tension and crisis.
All of a sudden, the professor seems excited. Perhaps, like all radicals in pursuit of the truth, Paglia is still hoping the revolution will come.
Trump wins big!
I wish I had your optimism - I really, really do.
However, when contemplating this election, Im filled with dread.
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Matthew 14:29-31 He said, Come. So Peter got out of the boat and walked on the water and came to Jesus. But when he saw the wind, he was afraid, and beginning to sink he cried out, Lord, save me. Jesus immediately reached out his hand and took hold of him, saying to him, O you of little faith, why did you doubt?
Go Camille!
The essence of heterosexual intercourse is life.
The opposite of life is death.
When you deny the essence of your own body, lots of weird things happen.
Very interesting point. Many Christian writers across the centuries have made the same analysis of contraception.
Once my wife and I started having children, we did not stop till God stopped. Five of the sweetest kids in the world and all five wanted to go with us to Sierra Leone and work here.
My husband and I have ten children. None has gone to Sierra Leone, though - not even the one in the military!
After the fifth child, my wife developed stage three cancer, and the drugs used to fight the cancer, Hreceptin, stopped her ability to have children. But we wold have definitely enjoyed as many more as the Lord would have given us. She is in her 15th year of remission, so I have no complaints on that end either.
Congratulations on 15 extra years. I wouldn’t complain, either!
They are obsessed with death for they believe not in the hereafter. This is why the ends justify the means, if they cannot change things now they will not be alive to see the end result. What a sad way to live, this is why they also have no sense of humor.
“this is why they also have no sense of humor.”
Heh, good observation!
Paglia is a gem: She thinks for herself, sees things as they are, and her thoughts are untainted by wishful delusion (a common fault of too many of today’s so-called elite thinkers).
Her writing is a cold glass of water in the desert.
If elected she’s going to have an extremely difficult time governing.
Trump supporters will not accept the results, and will be digging in for an active CW 2.0 resistance.
Meanwhile in her own party all the long knives and recriminations will be out over things spilled by WikiLeaks.
Why are the long knives already out?
What’s coming is sure to ensnare others
It’s a lovely tale.
But I’m the guy of little faith who sank out of sight.
And there are lots of us, lessons learned in the School of Hard Knocks.
“However, when contemplating this election, Im filled with dread.”
Me too. I’m hoping for the best, but I’m a realist. I think Trump can pull it off, but I don’t know if he can get enough votes in to defeat Hillary’s legitimate vote count AND her illegitimate vote count.
If there is a silver lining it is the following:
- a movement has been born that will survive even if Trump falls.
- the accusation of “racism” no longer means much.
- the accusation of “sexism” no longer means much.
- the power of the mainstream media is truly dying.
If there were no democratic ballot rigging, I’d have confiddeence in Trump.
Of course, we have to take into consideration that the democrats are intent on cheating, and they’re very d*mned good at it.
And, alas, I see no ‘silver lining’ at all in a Trump loss. None, whatsoever.
I find this conservative affection for Paglia an odd thing. She holds so many ungodly views and lives an immoral life. It seems we are willing to ignore all that because she pokes at liberals with a stick maybe once a month. How malleable we are.
“Camille Paglia on Hillary Clinton”
Uh, no thanks. Or at least, no pictures.
(Sorry, had to be done.)
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