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[ Vanity ] Survey results just don’t support polls showing Clinton close let alone leading
Vanity | October 26, 2016 | Kevin "Coach" Collins

Posted on 10/26/2016 5:11:59 AM PDT by jmaroneps37

Wikileaks made it an established fact that the polls are “fixed” to show what the media wants to show. They use large over or under samples, avoid unfriendly groups and unfriendly geographic locations.

The media has become so one sided that we can only get some idea of the truth by extrapolation after reviewing the results of surveys asking ancillary questions.

These questions have been answered and their reported answers put the burden of explaining them away on those who insist the polls are accurate.

When we look at the question of how trustworthy Hillary Clinton is we see that just 11% think she is trustworthy. Think about that: to one degree or another 89% of Americans don’t see her as honest.

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/08/16/nbc-poll-11-percent-think-hillary-honest-trustworthy/

After weighing the available news the media allows us to hear, 56% of voters think Hillary Clinton should be prosecuted for her handling of her secret emails.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/11/poll-most-disapprove-of-fbi-decision-to-exonerate-clinton/

Just 6% of respondents to a survey about trust in the media said they “fully” trust the media.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trust-in-media_us_57148543e4b06f35cb6fec58

Of those asked about whether the polls are rigged or not 41% said yes they agreed the polls could be.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/10019/rigged-poll-how-many-voters-now-think-election-james-barrett#

When asked, an overall 55 percent of voters told pollsters Trump was right when he charged the media is biased against him. Just 42% said he wasn’t. This raises an obvious question: If Trump is only at around 43% at best in polls, who are the other 12% - Democrats who “feel sorry” for Trump?

http://nypost.com/2016/10/19/americans-think-the-media-is-biased-against-trump-poll/

With the awful and stunning news that we are in for large 22% or more increases in Obamacare premiums, a search for data on how people feel about it was in order. A survey on Obamacare found 57% disapprove of the program.

http://iop.harvard.edu/majority-disapprove-health-care-law-believe-their-costs-will-rise-and-quality-will-fall

Surveys on the percentage of people who say have seen wiki leaks releases yielded nothing. There are no such surveys. A search for a survey on those who have seen a Project Veritas video draw the same blank.


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To: Mr. K

Exactly what you said.
I’m from Wisco. There is no enthusiasm for PIAPS.
Very few yard signs, bumper stickers and she is falling behind with TV advertisements compared to Trump. Better than double now. When it was all her a month ago.
Case in point, I drive by the same stretch of busy highway every day.
The last three elections there were multiple road signs for both candidates.
This year- Trump and Ron Johnson signs only on the same stretch of road. It’s been like that for the past month.
I have seen 20+ Trump signs in the “shadier” part of town.
I’ve seen maybe 20 yard signs in my little town for Cankles. I’ve seen 100+ for Russ Fiengold(piss be upon him).
In Madistan the amount is double that amount.


21 posted on 10/26/2016 5:56:32 AM PDT by BigpapaBo (If it don't kill you it'll make you _________!)
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To: Travis McGee

Bfl...thanks


22 posted on 10/26/2016 6:10:24 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Hillary & Huma SUPPORT those who support CLITORECTOMIES for little girls...SICKOS)
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To: jmaroneps37

“Coach” makes the same mistake as Rush Limbaugh and others. Large numbers of Democrats know Hillary is dishonest, know she should be indicted, etc., but they support her election, because...free stuff. The dishonesty and criminality we view as negatives, they see as basic skills.


23 posted on 10/26/2016 6:12:23 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: jmaroneps37

When asked, an overall 55 percent of voters told pollsters Trump was right when he charged the media is biased against him. Just 42% said he wasn’t. This raises an obvious question: If Trump is only at around 43% at best in polls, who are the other 12% - Democrats who “feel sorry” for Trump?

Myself and a few others have been saying for months that HRC can’t break 42% in a 4 way race. They tracking polls seem to confirm this. Now the 42% pops up again in your post. 42% don’t want Trump. HRC is stck with that number for a high water mark. We need the Blue swing states to stick at that level.


24 posted on 10/26/2016 6:15:34 AM PDT by DrDude (This poll)
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To: DrDude

It’s kind of amusing — Bill Clinton was elected president with 43% of the vote.

Hillary will not be elected with 42% of the vote. Her loss will be embarrassing.


25 posted on 10/26/2016 6:22:14 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Abortion is what slavery was: immoral but not illegal. Not yet.)
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To: Chewbarkah

So you think the point of the piece is that Hillary will get NO votes? Or do you think she has more enthusiasm on her side?


26 posted on 10/26/2016 6:24:40 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: jmaroneps37

They were just fixing the polls so their vote rigging schemes would not stand out.


27 posted on 10/26/2016 6:50:24 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: tired&retired

“Wikileaks made it an established fact that the polls are “fixed” to show what the media wants to show.”....

Well, there ya go, even Wikileaks agrees with me that polls are fixed. The only poll that will mean a thing will be the poll on November 9th, the day AFTER the election is over.


28 posted on 10/26/2016 7:09:38 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: jmaroneps37

The media jumped on an out-of-nowhere University of Houston poll putting Hillary within just 2% of Trump in Texas. A quick look at the inner numbers told you it had been cooked.

Trump led men by nine points. Hillary led women by four. What does that tell you? If men/women were 50/50, Trump would be leading by 5. So that means they oversampled women by at least 6% and (while not posting the D/R/I breakdown) one could also infer that Democrats were also oversampled. Yet, even two days ago, I saw this poll mentioned in the MSM to fit their narrative that Hillary can win Texas.


29 posted on 10/26/2016 7:39:57 AM PDT by OrangeHoof ("If you cain't run yo own house, you cain't run da White House. Cain't do it." - Michelle Obama)
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To: BigpapaBo; All

hee hee.. I love that phrase ‘PIAPS’

EVERY TIME you post on any other news or social sites (and you should be vigorously posting until this election is over) you should refer to hilLIARY as “HilLiARy(PIAPS)”

Keep doing it over and over and over until peole start asking ‘what does ‘PIAPS’ mean?

We have two weeks to use Alinsky’s MOST POWERFUL WEAPON: RIDICuLE!

Call her ‘Pig in a Pants Suit’ so much that it takes over as much as “Crooked HilLIARy” has


30 posted on 10/26/2016 9:24:15 AM PDT by Mr. K (Trump is running against EVERYONE. The Democrats, The Media, and the establishment GOP)
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To: BigpapaBo; All

hee hee.. I love that phrase ‘PIAPS’

EVERY TIME you post on any other news or social sites (and you should be vigorously posting until this election is over) you should refer to hilLIARY as “HilLiARy(PIAPS)”

Keep doing it over and over and over until peole start asking ‘what does ‘PIAPS’ mean?

We have two weeks to use Alinsky’s MOST POWERFUL WEAPON: RIDICuLE!

Call her ‘Pig in a Pants Suit’ so much that it takes over as much as “Crooked HilLIARy” has


31 posted on 10/26/2016 9:24:16 AM PDT by Mr. K (Trump is running against EVERYONE. The Democrats, The Media, and the establishment GOP)
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To: jmaroneps37

I think the point of the piece is what your headline says: “Survey results just don’t support polls showing Clinton close let alone leading.”

That statement is technically correct, but my point is that survey results about trustworthiness, etc., do not tell us anything about how people will vote in this particular election, period. An unknown percentage of those saying Hillary is a lying scoundrel will indeed vote for her anyway, so we have no basis to infer that the overall Trump v Hillary results are off because 89% think Hillary is a liar, or a majority think the media is corrupt. We can hope.

There are other reasons to imply Trump is further ahead. It is clear that most of the polls are rigged by oversampling pro-Hillary demographics, thus hiding Trump’s visible enthusiasm advantage; how they come up with these party and demographic assumptions seems disconnected from reality. Many polls are still spotting Johnson and Stein about 7% more than they will plausibly receive, and still have a float of 5 to 10% of “likely voters” who are lying about either their likelihood or their lack of knowing how they will vote. You can bet it’s mostly Trump voters who are afraid to say, due to Dem goon squads and the Bradley effect. A recent headline that Trump and Hillary are tied at 41% each, leaves about 15% unaccounted for (It also falsely implies that a national popular vote tie matters). Obama’s 2012 margin in the national popular vote was about 3%. But he won the election in 4 swing states on the back of about 450,000 votes — about 0.28%. For the media to report on polls with a 5 to 15% wildcard, pretending they mean anything, when the last election was decided on far less than 1%, is a screaming sham.


32 posted on 10/26/2016 11:41:30 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: DoodleDawg

Exactly. There’s only one poll that counts. Folks should be optimistic but never because of the polls. A good way to keep hopes up is to note the overwhelming support Trump/Pence receive at their campaign rallies versus those for Clinton/Kaine.

At the rallies, people are voting with their time and feet. And folks are excited to see Trump Pence. The only folks excited about Clinton/Kaine are their followers in the newsrooms.


33 posted on 10/28/2016 8:58:35 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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