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Russian Rustbucket (Carrier) Bumbling Along Channel 'Has Tow Boat In Case It Breaks Down'
Daily Express ^ | October 22, 2016 | By Vincent Wood

Posted on 10/22/2016 4:23:38 AM PDT by Strategy

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To: Fhios

Well said and Very true:
“People point to Europe and Scandinavian countries as models of the socialism progressives want. What they fail to recognize is it was the U.S military might, influence and Nato that allowed them to.

Relieving them of the burden of having to keep an actual functional military that keeps the shipping lanes open, the borders secure from overt invasion.”

The real shame is that all of our sacrifice of one million American soldiers killed in the name of preserving a free republic, is disgraced by reckless delusional Marxist-socialists precipitating the upcoming mother of All world depressions.
Our dead boys and founding fathers will spin ever faster in their Veteran cemeteries once a New World Order authoritarian system is in place soon.
Freedom died with nary a whimper from the Sheeple.


21 posted on 10/22/2016 5:39:15 AM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: McGruff

USSR 2.0 invests wisely in unbeatable anti-aircraft missile systems, excellent fighter aircraft and nukes galore.
Carriers are great for projecting air power.
However, Russia continues to enhance naval base presence in Syria, Crimea, and who knows else where.

Aircraft carriers are sitting ducks in a world of new super hypersonic cruise missiles, drone swarms, undetectable silent subs armed with ultrafast torpedoes, to name a few lethal threats.

Isn’t there a picture of new president Obola publicly carrying a end-of-American-supremacy book?
How telling...


22 posted on 10/22/2016 5:47:25 AM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: McGruff

When you look at the bombing footage they release it looks like a mess. Not much that could be called precision.


23 posted on 10/22/2016 6:04:49 AM PDT by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

Depression iceberg ahead:
Oct 6 2016

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/oct/05/world-debt-has-hit-record-high-of-152tn-says-imf

IMF urges governments to tackle record global debt of $152tn

The debt level is more than twice the size of the global economy and unprecedented as a proportion of GDP, the Fund says


24 posted on 10/22/2016 6:06:55 AM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

I always find it interesting that carriers (which are highly mobile) are considered sitting ducks. What does that make air bases?


25 posted on 10/22/2016 6:07:11 AM PDT by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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26 posted on 10/22/2016 6:14:21 AM PDT by Gideon7
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To: USNBandit

Your username indicates US Navy, correct?
If so, you would understand the threat that a single well placed torpedo or missile poses to disable / sink a ship?

What if advesaries submarines are becoming so silent, they could launch a torpedo attack undetected?

A Chinese Submarine Stalked an American Aircraft Carrier

www.popularmechanics.com/military/navy-ships/news/a18... Proxy Highlight

Nov 6, 2015 ... A Chinese submarine stalked the aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan for ... Most, if not all of China’s Improved Kilo submarines are based in Xiangshan, with China’s Eastern Fleet.

For the most part, an adversary cannot readily sneak up on a land base without detection.

Military strategists the world over have come to the conclusion that the Aircraft carrier days are seeing their twilight due to the enormous expensive constructing, operating and maintaining them.

Much bigger bang for the buck from the latest generation silent diesel-electric subs, cruise missiles, and long endurance drones.
A million+ dollar cruise missile can readily disable / destroy a 1.5 BILLION dollar carrier and it’s fancy $100,000,000 aircraft.

Look up the latest US Naval War College papers.


27 posted on 10/22/2016 6:26:09 AM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: USNBandit

The ones I saw they were right on target. Cross hairs on a truck or building and zap it was gone.


28 posted on 10/22/2016 6:28:55 AM PDT by duckln
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To: Rannug

Coal or oil it was sure belching a lot of smoke. It is also small and does not carry many aircraft.

As for the rest of their stuff, the S-400 air defence missile is lethal and sane airmen everywhere respect it, fear it.


29 posted on 10/22/2016 6:33:10 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: Strategy

A lot of people are forgetting that there is at least one known Submarine in this “floatilla”.


30 posted on 10/22/2016 6:33:35 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: Strategy

Carriers are almost obsolete for a modern war. Nothing but a big slow target for advanced guided missiles. They’re only useful for ops in turd-world countries.

What weapons WWIII would actually be fought with, we don’t know. But definitely not carriers.

I’d imagine future ships will be small, stealthy and fast. With racks of drones sitting below that can fly out like bees


31 posted on 10/22/2016 6:36:59 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: USNBandit

“Not much that could be called precision.” That’s because Russia ran out of precission bombs some time ago. New ones become available, but its hard to beat just blasting everyhting to rubble with dumb bombs, unless you care about civilians which the Russians do not.


32 posted on 10/22/2016 6:43:34 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: varyouga
Even the idiots that comprise :"ISIS" have used small "suicide drones" to kill Kurdish forces. I was looking at a small drone at Sam's Club. $450. This could essentially be used as a one time "sniper." The one used by ISIS apparently had explosive the size of a battery. Killed two soldiers.

They also used a more powerful one to take out a check-point. No one killed but buildings leveled. Just imagine a dozen of these things coming at you...

33 posted on 10/22/2016 6:50:15 AM PDT by donozark (My thoughts are not very deep. But they are of and inquisitive nature.)
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To: PIF

Carriers slow??? they can often out run most other ships including their escorts.


34 posted on 10/22/2016 6:55:19 AM PDT by davidb56
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To: USNBandit

Unsinkable. USAF


35 posted on 10/22/2016 6:56:28 AM PDT by Kadric
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To: central_va
The Russians spent $50B on the winter Olympics yet have only one questionable fixed wing AC carrier.

Is it true that they have to light a wick with a match to launch their ICBMs?

36 posted on 10/22/2016 6:57:43 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Kill TWITTER !! Kill FACEBOOK !! Free MILO !!)
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To: USNBandit

I think that ship is burning coal for it’s power plant.


37 posted on 10/22/2016 7:00:45 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: USNBandit

Noticed that too. Probably really poor-quality fuel, too.


38 posted on 10/22/2016 7:10:48 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Strategy

Laugh if you want but the Royal Navy is not what it used to be either.


39 posted on 10/22/2016 7:18:13 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: MarchonDC09122009

33 fixed wing aircraft and 12 helicopters. Even if the Kuznetsov has to be tug-boated all the way to off shore Syria it will be a lethal package. SU-33 Flankers. 2 or 3 of which could raise 9 kinds of hell with and ISIS convoy or fixed position.


40 posted on 10/22/2016 7:18:25 AM PDT by donozark (My thoughts are not very deep. But they are of and inquisitive nature.)
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