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Breaking Polls: Trump Up in Former Obama States IA, FL, OH, and NV
the gateway pundit ^ | Oct 19, 2016 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 10/19/2016 8:37:20 AM PDT by conservativepoet

According to the latest Washington Post polls Donald Trump is beating Democrat Hillary Clinton in former Obama states Iowa, Florida, Ohio and Nevada.

If Donald Trump wins these four states he will win the November election.

Trump is up: — 5 points in Iowa — 3 points in Ohio — 2 points in Florida — 4 points in Nevada

(Excerpt) Read more at thegatewaypundit.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: Iowa; US: Nevada; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: elections; fl2016; florida; ia2016; iowa; nevada; nv2016; oh2016; ohio; polls; trump; trumplandslidecoming
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To: JPG

Yes, Psi-Ops 101, Reverse psychology or whatever you call it, make the (D) voter think its close, get them out to the polls......


81 posted on 10/19/2016 10:02:40 AM PDT by Red Badger (YES, I'm Deplorable! I Deplore the entire Democrat Party!....................)
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To: Parley Baer; JPG; GGpaX4DumpedTea

82 posted on 10/19/2016 10:09:27 AM PDT by Red Badger (YES, I'm Deplorable! I Deplore the entire Democrat Party!....................)
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To: LS

LS,
Do you trust Team Trump’s polling data, i.e., methodology? Thanks,
T.W.

“Classified material was obtained through great sacrifice and sometimes lives were given to obtain. Hillary treats it with the respect her husband afforded to the women he brutally raped. Harsh analogy but true.”

Posted by HereintheHeartland
Needed to be repeated.


83 posted on 10/19/2016 10:11:19 AM PDT by The Westerner ("Giving Away the Internet or Any Part of It Is Sheer Lunacy" Jim Robinson)
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To: Jay Thomas

After the email leak, there is no one that ought to take anything those people say seriously.

Not even the damn weather forecast.


84 posted on 10/19/2016 10:16:24 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: The Westerner

So far, it comports with where I think we are independently. Several times I’ve given them numbers and they tell me it is right where they have the state/race.

Now, that may not mean much, but it does mean that I, coming at it from a totally different independent perspective, arrive at the same numbers they are getting.


85 posted on 10/19/2016 10:17:26 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: LS

Sound logic! What you describe, basically, is the way one confirms circumstantial evidence, to establish a trial result—as in conviction on circumstantial evidence. (And I suspect that your conclusion is based upon several, not just one, different perspectives—such as crowds drawn; social media activity, etc..)


86 posted on 10/19/2016 10:26:57 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan

Well, more than that: real #s I’m getting from OH, FL absentees, IA absentees, voter reg, etc.


87 posted on 10/19/2016 10:32:34 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: LS

Ok. It is rather unbearable not to know what data to trust, especially if the data shows a dead heat. And the numbers change with the latest media generated Trump scandal. This last has me worried if their worst Trump video is released Friday before election. Could it change these numbers *significantly* statistically speaking? Thank you for responding.

“Classified material was obtained through great sacrifice and sometimes lives were given to obtain.
Hillary treats it with the respect her husband afforded to the women he brutally raped.
Harsh analogy but true”.
Posted by HereintheHeartland


88 posted on 10/19/2016 10:34:33 AM PDT by The Westerner ("Giving Away the Internet or Any Part of It Is Sheer Lunacy" Jim Robinson)
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To: FourtySeven

Maybe things have changed, but I signed on to SurveyMonkey or something quite like it in 2007 or 2008. They literally keep you online for hours, interspersing ads with surveys. Not every member is accepted for every survey AND the payments are micro payments in the pennies range. Some give points for watching TV trailers/clips, then ask about the product placements noticed.

I do not see how anyone can make more than $5/day on these. Much like fivrr. I bet they are heavy on non-Americans, too, since the USD is worth more some places.

I think I lasted a few days before throwing in the towel. Oh: they slow your computer down by a lot.


89 posted on 10/19/2016 10:34:44 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: Timpanagos1

“Keep on eye on North Carolina.”

Please don’t peg me as a concern troll ... check my various posts for confirmation on that :-). This is more of a serious question :-).

This is the *only* state of the big three (OH, FL, NC) that has me, shall I say, “wondering” a bit. I can’t seem to get a reliable feel for the shift the state underwent from 2012 until now. Romney won it in a squeaker in 2012. Is there any reliable data out there?

I would have thought I would have seen signs of Clinton pulling out by now, but they simply aren’t there.

Does anyone have any additional information on NC? I think OH and FL look good, but NC just seems to be a bit too close for comfort right about now.


90 posted on 10/19/2016 10:40:34 AM PDT by edh (I need a better tagline)
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To: conservativepoet

that’s why the enemedia is pushing their fake national polls: it matters not how many vote for hillary in california, new york, new jersey, and illinois.


91 posted on 10/19/2016 10:40:43 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: reformedliberal

This can’t be true.... CNN lead story online is that Clinton is solidifying the electoral college lead.
Of course not one mention there of the two dem operatives quitting after admitting on tape that they send folks to initiate physical attacks at Trump rallies.
Off subject for this thread, we can pile on megyn Kelly all day, but FOX’s website has been very good at reporting the Wikileaks stories and the undercover videos. Kudos to them.


92 posted on 10/19/2016 10:47:02 AM PDT by roostercogburn
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To: Timpanagos1

I live in AZ and have posted this before. Every day, on every news broadcast, even on the station carrying Rush, the lead story is how AZ is turning blue.

Yesterday/today, it seems ALL the Dem surrogates are here - Sanders, Mrs Messiah, you name it.

There is a reason they are spending so much time here rather than in the traditional swing states, and it scares me.


93 posted on 10/19/2016 10:50:12 AM PDT by Breyean
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To: Red Badger

I was going to say, if that’s really from WaPo, it’s looking bad for the beast. Interesting that he doesn’t link to the WAPO article.


94 posted on 10/19/2016 10:50:30 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue
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To: conservativepoet

bookmark


95 posted on 10/19/2016 10:52:49 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: Breyean

Hillary is not expecting to win Arizona but they are looking to turn Arizona Blue in the near future.


96 posted on 10/19/2016 10:54:52 AM PDT by Timpanagos1
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To: TangledUpInBlue

http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/page/politics/surveymonkey-15-state-poll/2103/


97 posted on 10/19/2016 11:01:04 AM PDT by Red Badger (YES, I'm Deplorable! I Deplore the entire Democrat Party!....................)
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To: Red Badger

Thanks for that link. Gateway really cherry picked those results to report didn’t he?

Man, if she wins the states that poll has found her to be leading in, it won’t matter if Trump wins the 4 states they quoted.


98 posted on 10/19/2016 11:21:01 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue
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To: reformedliberal

Everything you say is true which is why I quit trying as well. I also quit though because I realized the way to make “real” money off surveys was to lie.

One survey say you love hand soap (when you see the survey is sponsored by some soap manufacturer)

Another say you hate it if it gets you farther in the survey (or you think it might anyway). That’s how the surveys worth only pennies turn into a couple bucks a survey. When they go longer and get more detailed in the questions the sponsor pays more (which makes sense since they are willing to pay more money for more detailed data and survey monkey wants to charge more for more info). And that’s what, I’m convinced, many of the active participants of survey monkey are doing. Lying to take as many detailed surveys as possible.

So that’s the typical respondent of even the political surveys. A liar. They may not lie during the actual poll survey but they are liars, and who will a liar more likely favor, Clinton or Trump? Republicans or Democrats?

That’s what I found reprehensible and so why I stopped. But I’m sure thousands more on there don’t have any such compunction.

Which is why I seriously doubt the reliability if not veracity of any online poll. Systematically done or not. The pool of respondents they draw upon have no moral center in my opinion. And thus, any poll that claims to have polled any Republicans at all is really only polling Democrats (or liberals of any party) who would never vote for any Republican.

Sure there are a few in there the honest ones like me who haven’t figured out the game yet and so are scratching their heads wondering how people can make any money off those things. And maybe some other anomalies that just like to do it to give their opinions and not for the money.

But the pool is skewed at least, IMO, to the welfare type looking to game the system, who have no compunction about lying their way to their final goal: money. Not exactly the typical Trump (or Republican) voter IMO. Look at their results for NC Governor for example. They have the Democrat winning by almost 20 points I can’t believe NC has gone THAT blue!


99 posted on 10/19/2016 11:22:45 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: conservativepoet

I think the keys to watch are what’s happening with FL, OH, NC, and PA. If they split things 2-2 then it’ll be a very close late night race. If one of them wins 3 or 4 then it’ll decide the race. I also think that PA is must-win for Hillary and FL most likely for Donald. The key voters that each will be catering to tonight are the ones likely to vote for them vs. stay home in OH, NC, WI, VA, NV, CO, FL, PA, and NH.


100 posted on 10/19/2016 11:30:18 AM PDT by Degaston
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