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Watch the video.........how to we stop this? Can we demand all scanned votes have to be hand counted against the computer total to confirm they match?
1 posted on 10/17/2016 1:04:58 PM PDT by blueyon
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To: blueyon

This is the LAST election that states should be allowed to use voting machines. There is no way states can guarantee the results are correct.


2 posted on 10/17/2016 1:10:26 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: blueyon

I like another FReepers suggestion that Trump voters wear Red. Just sit back and count red. Match results with published results. I would bet somewhere along the course of the day as the Rats realize what is happening the machines will “malfunction” and the Sandisk will have to be replaced. Take careful notes on who takes the old one away as that is evidence.

All you have to do IS WEAR RED. Or Blaze Orange. Tell them you are going hunting after...


3 posted on 10/17/2016 1:16:16 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: blueyon

- Vote counting machines should be kept in a locked room at all times by the county Supervisor of Elections.
- Test ballots, say 1000, should be hand counted over and over again until the tallies match and both sides have a copy of the results. All positions on the ballots should be tested.
- These test ballots should be locked in a SAFE.
- When the machines are brought out of the locked room the test ballots should be brought out of the safe and run through. Everyone must agree the machine count is EXACTLY CORRECT down to the lowest down-ballot race or the machine isn’t used.
- A Republican representative and a Democrat representative should escort each machine from the locked room to its polling location. The representatives should never lose sight of their assigned machine.
- Needs refinement to verify at any time that the software running in the machine is actually the same software (BIT FOR BIT)that made the test count.


8 posted on 10/17/2016 1:29:54 PM PDT by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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To: blueyon
Besides tampering and fraudulent ballots , consider also they can purge registered voters from voting roles . There was widespread evidence of voter purging in the primaries, and is a real crime brought to my attention after my own daughter who has voted in the past, was purged and had to re-register . Everybody be sure and check your registration is up to date on line or call
9 posted on 10/17/2016 1:31:31 PM PDT by seastay
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To: blueyon

They’re going to try stealing this election. EVERYONE knows that.

Two things will happen:

(1) Anonymous will stop them. Yes, they are capable of doing so.

(2) They steal the election. Then what?


10 posted on 10/17/2016 1:34:35 PM PDT by piytar (http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullet)
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To: blueyon

This country is going to h**l. I just can’t believe we are that far as a banana republic where LAWS don’t apply anymore.


11 posted on 10/17/2016 1:35:29 PM PDT by vinny29
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To: blueyon

The Republic has been dead for a very long time now...

It is just now that people are waking up to that fact....


13 posted on 10/17/2016 1:59:42 PM PDT by GraceG (Only a fool works hard in an environment where hard work is not appreciated...)
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To: blueyon; All
Patriots need to consider the following points concerning voting.

Remember in November !

Patriots need to support Trump / Pence by also electing a new, state sovereignty-respecting Congress that will not only work within its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers to support Trump’s vision for making America great again for everybody, but will also put a stop to unconstitutonal federal taxes and likewise unconstitutional inteference in state affairs.

Note that such a Congress will also probably be willing to fire state sovereignty-ignoring activist justices.

14 posted on 10/17/2016 2:02:39 PM PDT by Amendment10
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That we have no way to verify elections in the U.S. is not well understood - in the U.S. The media will not report that only two European nations, France and Belgium, have not returned to paper ballots. If you don’t understand computer software and hardware, and most don’t, you have no way to evaluate the integrity of our voting systesm. Computerized vote tallies continue to be the topic of graduate research topics, and crude scanning equipment is hacked for grades in college engineering schools year after year. Germany, after a challenge that went to the German Supreme Court, returned to paper ballots in 2009. Where there a paper ballot handled by a voter is not visible to trusted precinct workers, and the ballots counted before they are sealed in boxes and moved to bonded storehouses, there is no verifiable audit trail.

Many cite Stalin, who presumably observed that in representative democracies it only matters who counts the votes. In the U.S. the SEIU counts the votes, if they are counted at all. That is why George Soros, who may be the virtual candidate in this election, created the “Secretaries of State Project”. Secretaries of State in in each state are responsible for protecting vote tabulation. Their employees are SEIU employee’s. Guess whose political interests they must protect?

With secret ballots only physical ballots permit an audit. Is it any wonder that the media can say anything they are told to say? If Trump were leading by 40% they would prepare the “electorate” by reporting 3 or 4% differences so that the moderately comfortable, the communities with 60 or 70% of working age on government assistance, and who don’t understand that without any growth in domestic production, they won’t get increases in their welfare, and will gradually suffer as other costs inevitably increase, leading in the dreams of Podesta and his far-left Center for American Progress and the still Marxist Institute for Policy studies, to Socialism/Communism in the U.S.

It is not arguable that our elections cannot be audited. Polls are as valid as reported election results. The federal vote tallies were once managed by a shadowy organization owned by the major media corporation, Voter News Service. That should not surprise anyone who realize that political parties are private corporations. When you see the corruption of our FBI, which granted immunity to Hillary’s virtual cabinet, including Cheryl Mills and Huma Abeden, permitting destruction of their computers. When James Comey, an advisor to the Clinton Family Foundation, subvered Congress, which passed ‘18 U.S. Code 793 (f)’ clearly specifying that careless handling of sensitive documents by an official of the U.S. government “shall” result in not more the 10 years in federal prison, only a few congressmen dared mention it. Intent is irrelevant. Comey is impeachable. How can anyone expect this government to protect our right to have our votes counted?

Vote tabulation is data acquisition. This writer created auditable results produced by analytic instrument because they are required by the FDA for drug licensing. The FDA knew that human intervention was possible when a company’s survival and/or success depended upon these data. These systems are called “Laboratory Information Management Systems” or “LIMS”. There were and are justified. Mexico has voting processes that protect the integrity of representative government by having voting citizens count paper ballots in front of their peers, and in precincts located among their neighbors Trustworthy governments believe that sovereign citizens must trust their governments, and are the best protection of the privileges and privacy of their neighbors and themselves. Our government believes, as Bill Clinton once famously said, believes that our citizens don’t always make good choices, as he justified not returning monies taken for but not spent. Our government has mostly destroyed any potential for proving, or auditing, elections in the U.S.

Paper ballots are why BREXIT passed. We are one of few “Republics” that do not require paper ballots. It is impossible to verify votes presumably acquired by computers. What happens in the coming elections will be whatever the mandarins think they can get away with.


15 posted on 10/17/2016 2:14:31 PM PDT by Spaulding
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I am sooo glad that this vid finally made it here. I looked for hours the other day to post it as I’d seen it elsewhere, and couldn’t find it through their search function. I didn’t recall what the vid was called, or who’d made it.

I’ve posted several times about reprogramming the voting machines, and checking the machines prior to the polls opening, and this is vid is exactly what was in my mind as I posted.

Furthermore, some of the people here on this forum have talked about seeing people going around with a usb key, and inserting them into the voting machines. Who certifies what’s on those usb keys??

The usb keys CAN be a good thing if they are ‘clean’ and contain NO software to alter the results such as was seen in the op’s vid. They can keep a count on a timed basis which can be compared to machine output, but if the machine is compromised such as was seen in the vid, then nothing valuable is provided.

Humans can make errors in counting, and an honest error is one thing, but to have a machine programmed to deliberately alter vote results...is it really worth it for the sake of speed? Human error wouldn’t be nearly as bad/numerous as an altered machine.

Whoever talked about taking the ballot to the PO for registered delivery is on to something. That’s a good idea as I intend to vote by this method. I saw an article on the vid page about a post man who deliberately destroyed trump votes. I need to go back and look at that article.

Once again, thank you for posting this vid.


17 posted on 10/17/2016 2:48:43 PM PDT by PrairieLady2
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To: blueyon

bkmk


23 posted on 10/17/2016 3:11:11 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: blueyon

“how to we stop this? Can we demand all scanned votes have to be hand counted against the computer total to confirm they match?”

I absolutely think that at a very minimum, a random sampling of polling places MUST have the election workers/officials do a hand count to see if the results match. This would require that the workers are comprised of members from both parties, and in situations where such isn’t the case, that there are pre determined observers from both parties available to observe the hand count once the polls close and the process begins. I don’t think there is any other way to ensure the tabulators haven’t been compromised.


24 posted on 10/17/2016 3:14:19 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: blueyon

“how to we stop this?”

Only if Trump’s margin of victory is greater than the dems’ margin of vote fraud. And it’ll be massive this time, dwarfing ‘08 and ‘12.


25 posted on 10/17/2016 3:17:51 PM PDT by Carriage Hill ( Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everyone stands around reloading.)
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Overthrowing the federal govt as we know it. Would be a thing of beauty


27 posted on 10/17/2016 3:24:16 PM PDT by Carry me back (Cut the feds by 90%9)
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