Posted on 10/16/2016 1:10:18 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
Media cooking polls because they knows that for Hillary to win legitimately she has to get something very close to the Obama coalition to win the election outright.
They know that isn't going to happen, that the Hillary isn't Obama and that the enthusiasm gap isn't there for her in people excited to vote for her. She can't fill up a high school gymnasium. They do know that there is huge enthusiasm gap for those they are going to vote for Trump. So the media is trying to depress enough Trump supporters to not show up and vote to give Hillary some help.
That it's over and so why bother!
They also want to provide enough cover for when the Dems attempt to rig the election with voter fraud that when Trump complains and gear up his lawyers they will say that he and his supporters are crazy because Hillary had it in the bag and it's just sour grapes. They want to voting public to be numb to outright fraud and cooking the election numbers and that even if there is 'some' here and there fraud that Hillary is still the winner no matter what.
This year is soooo different than in 2012!
2012 had the UNBEATABLE Obama on the ticket compared to LOSER Romney who had absolutely ZERO movement behind his sorry ass + this IDIOT also screwed up his Get Out to Vote Orca program!!! LOL
Believe these were the Gallup polls for 2012
Month D R
October 50% 45%
October 46% 49%
October 48% 48%
October 48% 47%
November 49% 46%
Actual result 51% 47%
difference is, I don’t remember D+8, D+11 over samples in 2012. Also, Mitt was not as popular as Trump is, and frankly was coasting thinking he had it wrapped up. He also, was not fighting for the office.
The point is that was Obama and he is very popular with democrat and liberal voters and a coalition of voters leaning towards him. Hillary isn’t Obama and doesn’t have the charisma or appeal to that coalition of voters that got Obama elected twice. If she got anywhere near that coalition of voters then it’s going to be a shock! All internal numbers show that isn’t going to happen this election year. So the media just adds more Dems in sampling to make her numbers look great
*PING* to post #18.
Mud throwing tends to depress turnout, and Democrats are not motivated this year.
I am predicting a 6-8 Trump popular vote victory which will translate to an easy electoral college victory.
That would be a ten point swing from 2012—note the MSM over-sampling of Ds by ten points—that is your clue!
They also cook these poll numbers so you’ll overlook the fact that the polls are just psy-ops, tools for rigging the system.
WaPo D+8
Fox D+9
NBC D+12
Reuters D+15
NBC/WSJ Poll D+18.9
This says it all. The internals are so absurd that the polls can't be claimed to be anything other than propaganda. In the election, the party breakdown will be D+2 at worst. The Liberal Media knows this, but it's desperate to fool Trump supporters into believing the Wicked Witch is assured victory. Ignore the polls, except for pointing out their fraudulent internals.
Let em try.
Actually Trump supporters have not been swayed in the least to walk away from casting their vote for Trump.
Who they are trying to sway are those who don't like either Hillary or Trump, but will vote Trump, as a vote against Hillary. I know a few of those types of voters. However, most of them are so committed to keeping Hillary out, that the majority of them are still extremely likely to vote for Trump.
So that leaves those extremely low information voters cannot see the real issues and are easily fooled, to convince them to just sit out the election or perhaps vote 3rd party, who might have been convinced to vote for Trump had the tape not come out.
In my opinion those are their intended targets.
That may be their plan, but I go some sad news for em: It ain’t workin’. All it’s doing is reinforcing the Trump voting block. People have had enough of their BS.
I agree. This is exactly what is going on.
But I hope Trump supporters will not let themselves be discouraged and will all show up and VOTE for Trump, to counteract all the fraud the Dems are preparing already.
According to the 2012 Exit Poll, Ds were 38 percent, Rs 32 percent, for a 6 point Democrat advantage.
I’ve been tracking party affiliation based on many, many polls, many of them non-political polls that nevertheless inquire about party affiliation. My monthly sample is larger than the exit poll. In mid year, there was a 7 point Democratic advantage. Currently, there is a 6 point Democratic advantage. The Democratic advantage shrank to 5 points during the Republican convention, and has since risen back up to 6 points.
Note that these figures include any polls purposely skewed. It is possible the Democratic advantage is less than 6 points.
As a rough and ready unskew: if a poll shows more than a 6 point Democratic advantage, simply adjust the difference between Clinton and Trump by the excess.
To some extent, party affiliation is going to fluctuate from one poll to another. That is to be expected. Some polls wind up a bit higher than a 6 point Democratic advantage. I think is because they are trying to replicate the demographics of 2012 (as determined by a very large post election survey). Some polls, normally good, manipulate timing or the sequence of questions so as to sensationalize certain events. But, some polls are just consistently far in excess of a 6 point Democratic advantage; e.g., Reuters, and should either be ignored or handled with care.
To put one to this, I'll point out that she's not running against Mittens. Remember, that election was a choice between Tweedledee and Tweedledum. Not so this time!
Wow.
THAT deserved to be in the vanity.
Only thing I wish is that Ryan was running and I'd work to defeat him. His defeat and a Trump win would be a clean sweep!
Go Trump!
Mea culpa! Now, to the second part of my wish. Defeating Ryan!
“Media oversampling D+ in polls to depress Trump voters that it’s over and cover Real rigging”
The media’s #1 marching order: Hillary must win. If she doesn’t ... that will be fun!
After watching the tape on you tube, I think he’s toast at this point. It’s over.
I’ve heard rumors that Hillary is a lesbian. Nothing wrong with that IMO, but if that were exposed just as convincingly, it might turn the tables.
Also, the notion that Michelle Obama is actually transgender (A Man) might do the trick. Look it up on you tube. Pretty convincing, actually. (I was shocked)
Nonetheless, I vow to get up that Tuesday morning, wait on line and vote for TRUMP! (I stayed home in 2012. First time ever. Romney? Are you kidding me?)
Last time I voted was for McCain in 2008. The GOP “made me do it”. Never again.
Donald J Trump may be the last person I will ever vote for.
Please guys, get out and vote this time!
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