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After Donald Trump’s defeat, the U.S. will have to contend with a ‘war’ between the states
Market Watch ^ | October 13, 2016 | By Darrell Dalmeide

Posted on 10/14/2016 5:14:49 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Hillary Clinton’s “dream” of a common market throughout the American hemisphere is a dystopian nightmare to many in this country.

This dream was featured in one of the excerpts from her paid speeches to financial institutions released last week by WikiLeaks.

My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders, sometime in the future,” Clinton said in a 2013 speech for Banco Itau of Brazil, “with energy that is as green and sustainable as we can get it, powering growth and opportunity for every person in the hemisphere.”

John Kass of the Chicago Tribune wondered this week if Clinton would explain what she meant with these remarks of a borderless Western hemisphere. “An America without borders? That’s not a dream, that’s a nightmare,” Kass wrote in the Tribune. “Ask the Europeans. They know.”

Kotkin, an expert in economic geography, says the Electoral College map “reflects an increasingly stark conflict between two very different American economies.”

One, concentrated on the coasts and largely Democratic, he calls the “Ephemeral Zone,” because it deals primarily in digits and images, the movement of software, media and financial transactions. The other, mostly Republican, is the “New Heartland,” which produces tangible things like food, fiber and manufactured goods.

In his view, Trump should and probably will lose, but that will not put an end to this divide. “The new war between the states will not end in November,” he says. “It will have hardly just begun."

In this economic climate, Kotkin contends, Republicans could still make progress in this election, even with Trump at the top of the ticket likely to lose.

“Once Trump is gone,” he says, “there will be enough political will and money to mount a counter-offensive” against the blue-state digital economy.

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To: Oldeconomybuyer
“Once Trump is gone,” he says, “there will be enough political will and money to mount a counter-offensive” against the blue-state digital economy.

What a dumbass. Donald Trump IS the counter-offensive!

If he loses, the blue states "win". We will pick up the pieces later at the physical ramparts.

Maybe cut off their food. See how bits of data taste on an empty stomach.

Then again, who am I kidding? If people don't vote for what's right, how can I believe they'll fight?

It all come down to one day this time.

41 posted on 10/14/2016 5:58:48 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: TTFlyer

Don’t blame the flag or pledge of Allegiance. These traitors aren’t Americans are are the domestic enemies we’ve always been warned about. “All enemies foreign and domestic”.


42 posted on 10/14/2016 5:58:48 AM PDT by VermithraxPejorative
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To: LegendHasIt

Maybe you’ve hit on something there! Could the war with Russia actually be waged so that we will decide we can’t fight the Establishment when we have a “real” enemy, the Russsssssiiians?


43 posted on 10/14/2016 5:59:22 AM PDT by uncitizen (JFK: The first victim of the New World Order)
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To: TTFlyer

If Hillary assumes the throne I will “secede” from the United States and declare it an enemy. I will never again pledge allegiance to the flag, or to the government of the United States.
The United States of America will be dead.”

Yup.

How ‘bout, after Hillary wins, all the fans at every NFL game take a knee during the National Anthem.

And silence afterwards.


44 posted on 10/14/2016 6:06:00 AM PDT by JPJones (George Washington's Tariffs were Patriotic. Build a Wall and Build a Wall of tariffs.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If Trump wins, there are about 1500 people I would like to see humiliated relentlessly and repeatedly to the point where they take their owns lives. I wish I was kidding.


45 posted on 10/14/2016 6:08:11 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (I had a cool idea for a new tagline and I forgot it!)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
There will be war within the cities as well.

Think Sarajevo

46 posted on 10/14/2016 6:08:20 AM PDT by Roccus (When you talk to a politician...ANY politician...always say, "Remember Ceausescu")
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To: ncalburt

For sure


47 posted on 10/14/2016 6:09:04 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: uncitizen

“Could the war with Russia actually be waged so that we will decide we can’t fight the Establishment when we have a “real” enemy, the Russsssssiiians?”

If Hitlery wins, she WILL start a war with Russia. To prove she’s “strong”..

I say we let the “suburban college educated women” fight that one.

US Military cemeteries are disproportionally filled with men with high school diplomas.


48 posted on 10/14/2016 6:09:51 AM PDT by JPJones (George Washington's Tariffs were Patriotic. Build a Wall and Build a Wall of tariffs.)
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To: lodi90
Putinist Russia doesn’t seem to have any problem starting wars without Hillary Criminal.

No, ultimately it's the neocons who seek to start conflict with Christian Russia as well as invade and destroy many more countries (Syria, Iran, Yemen, et al.) for their own interest. This same neocon cabal controlled the Bush Admin. The problem for the rest of us average Americans is the neocons will find a willing psychopath in Hillary to fulfill their globalist neocon fantasies.

49 posted on 10/14/2016 6:10:28 AM PDT by AC Beach Patrol
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

I’ve occasionally seen this guy’s writings on MarketWatch.

My mental image of him is a guy who wears sandals with white socks.


50 posted on 10/14/2016 6:13:03 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“But while that same media decried Trump’s comments, it was none other than President Obama that appeared to demand press freedom be restricted. As AFP reports, Obama on Thursday decried America’s “wild, wild west” media environment for allowing conspiracy theorists a broad platform and destroying a common basis for debate.

Recalling past days when three television channels delivered fact-based news that most people trusted, Obama said democracy require citizens to be able to sift through lies and distortions.
 
“We are going to have to rebuild within this wild-wild-west-of-information flow some sort of curating function that people agree to,” Obama said at an innovation conference in Pittsburgh.
 
“There has to be, I think, some sort of way in which we can sort through information that passes some basic truthiness tests and those that we have to discard, because they just don’t have any basis in anything that’s actually happening in the world,” Obama added.

His remarks came amid an election campaign that has seen Republican candidate Donald Trump repeat ideas and take on key staff from right-wing media outlets, and come just a day after Google unveils its “Fact Checking” network.”

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-14/obama-urges-press-curation-needed-trump-plans-new-attack-new-york-times

https://blog.google/topics/journalism-news/labeling-fact-check-articles-google-news/


51 posted on 10/14/2016 6:16:46 AM PDT by combat_boots (MSM: We lie to you sheep at the slaughterhouse to keep you calm during slaughter)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

But after he wins, the war will be in the ‘hoods. The (Soros funded) riots will get so out of control that martial law will probably be declared.


52 posted on 10/14/2016 6:17:09 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: LegendHasIt

That is a rumor.


53 posted on 10/14/2016 6:17:26 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: al_c

Doubt that will happen.


54 posted on 10/14/2016 6:18:29 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: LegendHasIt

The “plan” isn’t Hillary’s per say, she is just in collusion with the cheap labor open borders interests where she sits in closed door meetings with them as they outline all sorts of agendas to be forced on others including the “common market” schemes.

One has to be very careful about the “common market” agenda and understanding what is part of their agenda in this regard, because the word “common” can lead to misleading interpretations, just like the word smiting of so-called comprehensive immigration “reform”.

Part of this agenda is ARBITRAGE.

What does that mean?

What this means is crony capitalism working in conjunction with the corrupt government class that specifically empowers the government class while profiting the crony capitalists while destroying other businesses and competitors, promoting a cheap labor model of profits which are the benefactors of the government class collusion, and implementing a “market” model based on ARBITRAGE.

Their model of arbitrage is “economic zones”, these not only span borders but are also specifically designed to control and lock in their profits WITHIN a specific country and to enforce a compliant citizenry. For example, they create an economic zone, let us say “economic zone A”, where the people in one zone are hardwired into some specific economic output and over production of this output where the cheaper “price” also entraps those within “economic zone A” from a vicious cycle of dependency on the crony capitalist-government class plantation living day to day, paycheck to paycheck and increasing debt, further compromised by the crony capitalist’s displacement of Americans from their jobs within “zone A” with cheap foreign labor, this reduces the “price” of the output further but never so cheap that those trapped in “zone A” can escape from the economic zone …

… the very purpose of “economic zones” is entrapment. “Economic zone A” is established, but in another area is established “economic zone B”. This can be pan-nation, but actually the agenda of entrapment is very much inclusive of WITHIN the borders of a nation, such as America. In “economic zone B”, those within that zone are entrapped such that they have no means to develop or produce or contribute towards the output or “product” of “economic zone A”. But they NEED whatever this product or output is from economic zone A to continue eking out some sort of stability or living or waiting to be taken away on trains.

Now comes the arbitrage.

Now the crony capitalists which represent interests larger than just those who control the “output” in “economic zone A”, then, while monitoring price fluctuations in the currency, interest rates, then “purchase” the “output” in “economic zone A” just at the perfect time and at a cheap price and then “sell” this output or dependency in “economic zone B” at a higher price, and they do this in a very short period of time, and in cycles over and over again. ONLY THE CRONY CAPITALISTS in an agreement with the GOVERNMENT CLASS are allowed to “distribute” (sell) the “output” in “economic zone B”. Those who are actually entrapped in “economic zone B” cannot, are not allowed, to “buy” directly from “economic zone A”. Only the profiteers, the crony capitalists using the power of the government bureaucracy and in collusion with the government class, only THEY can “distribute” the “output” or “product” in “economic zone B”, those who are in economic zone A are essentially like slaves who are whatever human role is left in the creation of “output” within that zone to output a “cheap product”, the very “cheapness” further entraps these human resources or population within zone A, and then this “cheap output” is then stolen or purchased not only by the crony capitalists directly in control of the “output” but other crony capitalists not directly in control but in control of or in collusion with the government class, “obtained” or “purchased” cheap in zone A BUT THEN “SOLD” in zone B AT A HIGHER PRICE ALL WITHIN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.

This is arbitrage. The cheap price in zone “A” is “sold” or “distributed” (often by the government itself) in zone “B” at a higher “price” and the result is even higher profits for the crony capitalists and more empowerment of expansive, abusive, authoritarian government class. Those in the government class who are the machinations of this are not even elected, they are agencies or bureaucracy or faceless regulators. There is no “democracy” involved in this “market model”.

The zones are not just “economic zone A” and “B”. They are MANY. Many different zones with different fields or “subject” matter but essentially all using arbitrage to empower the government class and enrich the crony capitalists who also grow more powerful and are hardwired into government itself. While multiple economic zones may seem complicated to the average person, it is not complicated to the crony capitalists working with government, they pay their lawyers and their government class and accountants and their computer specialists very well to keep everything on track.

And they will destroy all the other businesses who are legitimate free enterprise, capitalist in nature, or at least they are very well on track in doing so. And it is global. And Hillary is with them.


55 posted on 10/14/2016 6:22:08 AM PDT by ShivaFan
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To: QuigleyDU

Our Forefathers were right...if America is destroyed, it will be from the inside. We’re seeing it firsthand right at this moment.


56 posted on 10/14/2016 6:23:02 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Biggirl
Doubt that will happen.

Seriously? You don't think there will be riots after a Trump win?

57 posted on 10/14/2016 6:23:16 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: MichaelCorleone

Last election cycle, the IRS and voter fraud was used to circumvent the outcome of an American election.

This election cycle, there not even hiding it. From the white house to Dept. of State, IRS to FBI, DOJ to Federal judiciary along with the state propaganda arm...the American media are colluding to place the most corrupt politician any American history into the white house.

What does this say folks? Let me go first.

We’ve lost our government. This is no longer a government of, for, by the people. Our founding fathers new this day was coming.

Massive voter fraud, sanctioned by the political parties has STOLEN the power of our vote.

There is only the illusion of a free/fair election process. The rule of law has died. We are indeed smack dab in the middle of a constitutional crisis. Americans now live under tyranny.

What say you?


58 posted on 10/14/2016 6:33:26 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"After Donald Trump’s defeat, the U.S. will have to contend with a ‘war’ between the states ..."

..... LOL .... I remember all of the tough talk before Obama took office. Heck ... After a couple of years everything settled down. There was still some tough talk but the Obama Administration learned early on that all of that "Tough Talk" was just that .... talk.

59 posted on 10/14/2016 6:34:00 AM PDT by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: servantboy777
Sorry for the misspellings/grammatical errors.

I'm spittin freakin mad.

60 posted on 10/14/2016 6:36:22 AM PDT by servantboy777
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