Posted on 10/09/2016 10:24:46 PM PDT by Olog-hai
Donald Trump says he’ll jail opponent Hillary Clinton if he wins the presidency.
The Republican presidential nominee made the threat — an unprecedented break with U.S. political decorum — in the middle of the second presidential debate, held Sunday in St. Louis. […]
Trump's remarks drew widespread and bipartisan condemnation as un-American.
Former Attorney General Eric Holder, who served under President Barack Obama, wrote on Twitter: “In the USA we do not threaten to jail political opponents. @realDonaldTrump said he would. He is promising to abuse the power of the office.”
Ari Fleischer, White House press secretary under George W. Bush and a supporter of Trump, wrote: “Winning candidates don’t threaten to put opponents in jail. Presidents don’t threaten prosecution of individuals. Trump is wrong on this.” …
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Then clue me in, Einstein. That is what we're all here for, isn't it?
You need to drop it. Please.
Why do I need to drop it?
“Ari Fleischer, White House press secretary under George W. Bush and a supporter of Trump, wrote: ‘Winning candidates don’t threaten to put opponents in jail. Presidents don’t threaten prosecution of individuals. Trump is wrong on this.’”
http://thefederalist.com/2016/10/10/16-times-democrats-tried-to-prosecute-their-opponents/
Tell that to the Democrats, Ari.
OK, I'll take a stab at that one:
Because you do not have a high school level of understanding regarding the impeachment process and by continuing to argue, you are making yourself look like an uneducated fool.
Really?
Impeachment
The Senate's Impeachment Role
The United States Constitution provides that the House of Representatives "shall have the sole Power of Impeachment" (Article I, section 2) and that "the Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments .... [but] no person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two-thirds of the Members present" (Article I, section 3). The president, vice president, and all civil officers of the United States are subject to impeachment.
Snip...” In impeachment proceedings, the House of Representatives charges an official by approving, by majority vote, articles of impeachment. A committee of representatives, called “managers,” acts as prosecutors before the Senate. The Senate Chamber serves as the courtroom. The Senate becomes jury and judge, except in the case of presidential impeachment trials when the chief justice of the United States presides. The Constitution requires a two-thirds vote of the Senate to convict, and the penalty for an impeached official is removal from office. In some cases, disqualification from holding future offices is also imposed. There is no appeal.
Anything else I need to know?
Shall we return to the issue of pardons?
As a result of certain acts or omissions occurring before his resignation from the Office of President, Richard Nixon has become liable to possible indictment and trial for offenses against the United States. Whether or not he shall be so prosecuted depends on findings of the appropriate grand jury and on the discretion of the authorized prosecutor. Should an indictment ensue, the accused shall then be entitled to a fair trial by an impartial jury, as guaranteed to every individual by the Constitution.
It is believed that a trial of Richard Nixon, if it became necessary, could not fairly begin until a year or more has elapsed. In the meantime, the tranquility to which this nation has been restored by the events of recent weeks could be irreparably lost by the prospects of bringing to trial a former President of the United States. The prospects of such trial will cause prolonged and divisive debate over the propriety of exposing to further punishment and degradation a man who has already paid the unprecedented penalty of relinquishing the highest elective office of the United States.
Now, Therefore, I, Gerald R. Ford, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974.
How can an innocent person be pardoned? Even Ford said he had committed offenses.
Trump bump.
5.56mm
This is making the rounds. A black protestor is now on life support, after having worn the Bill Clinton Rapist t-shirt. https://twitter.com/StopStopHillary/status/785809556903333890
Hillary called for an intervention on this man.
NO! Ari, jerks like you allowed Obama’s DOJ and the FBI to become corrupted. YOU and the GOP establishment did nothing but allow the rot to ester. YOU are part of the Bush/Clinton Cartels destroying America.
Hmmmmmmm...well yes Eric, we also in the USA adhere to the "rule of law". Wherein no one is above the law. The Administration you were a part of disregarded the law, cherry-picked the parts you were going to enforce (selectively against many conservative, Christian groups). Your Justice Department did not honor the oath to enforce the laws fairly, evenly. Eric to ignore, to not enforce existing laws is also abusing the law.
You do not understand the difference between committing a crime and being convicted of that crime.
You do not understand that "impeachment" is the process of determining if the facts warrant a 'forced removal' from office.
Two Presidents have been impeached and neither was convicted.
You're the one claiming I don't know anything so what gives?
School me, Einstein!
Constitution of the United States
...and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.
"You were saying?"
I understand. The House impeaches, the Senate removes if it votes by 2/3 to convict.
The Senate can't remove/vacate the original House impeachment.
Happy?
Still, though, why the need for a presidential pardon?
Who would have brought charges and for what.
...justification to pardon Hillary.
Are you stupid? She first has to be convicted of something to be pardoned.
When has she been convicted in a court of law of anything?
Pardon Information and Instructions
2. Federal convictions only
Do you really think that makes people want to carry on an exchange with you? Are you stupid?
Tell me how that works in your world.
Do you really think that makes people want to carry on an exchange with you?
And rather than address your assertion you choose to divert from the subject at hand?
I conceded a point to you so can't you concede that you were wrong and she can't get a pardon without first being convicted?
One key thing to keep in mind: Presidential pardons only apply to federal criminal acts against the United States.
So, the president cannot pardon a person for violations of any federal civil laws or state criminal or civil laws.
Were her offenses "against the United States"?
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