Posted on 10/08/2016 5:02:00 AM PDT by daniel1212
More than half of all U.S. Catholics (52 percent) would cast a vote for Democrat Hillary Clinton if the election were held today, compared to just 32 percent for Republican Donald J. Trump...
More than three in four (76 percent) non-white and Hispanic Catholics would pick Clinton, with 13 percent choosing Trump.
Among white non-Hispanic Catholics, Clinton holds a much smaller lead, 44 percent to 41 percent....
Six in 10 (62 percent) white evangelicals say they would vote for Trump today, while 47 percent of white mainline Protestants pick Trump.
That comes from a new survey by the Public Religion Research Institute, whose findings mirror a similar poll conducted earlier this summer by the Pew Research Center.
Trump’s trouble with Catholic voters was foreshadowed during the primary season, when a group of reliably conservative Catholics urged their fellow believers in the Republican Party to resist Trump, even after he had all but sewn up the nomination.
Those concerns were renewed this week when The Hill reported on comments made by the newly tapped C.E.O of the Trump campaign, Stephen Bannon. The former head of the conservative website Breitbart News had accused the Catholic Church of supporting immigration reform only to boost its own membership.
“I understand why Catholics want as many Hispanics in this country as possible, because the church is dying in this country, right? If it was not for the Hispanics,” he said in March during a radio interview with Princeton University Professor Robert George..
Nearly seven in 10 (68 percent) of U.S. Catholics say they support same-sex marriage, up from just 35 percent in 2003. At the same time, Catholics are about split when asked if support for same-sex marriage goes against their religious beliefs (45 percent say that it does)... of the Catholic “Never Trump” movement.
About six in 10 Catholics (63 percent) say businesses should not be allowed to refuse services to gays and lesbians based on religious objections.
When it comes to how friendly religious institutions are to L.G.B.T. people, Catholics think better of their church than the American public does. Almost half of all Americans consider the Catholic Church to be “somewhat or very unfriendly” to L.G.B.T. people, with 35 percent seeing the Catholic Church as friendly.
The numbers are switched for Catholics, with 49 percent saying the church is friendly and 45 percent who say it is not.
While U.S. bishops have made fighting same-sex marriage a priority for several years, just 37 percent of Catholics report hearing the issue discussed by their priest in the past few months.
Of course not, but it testifies to what the majority of Catholics intend to do. What is your point?
But Rome herself treats such as members, thus who are you to exclude them? Was Teddy K a RC? How did the pope treat him?
If you filter out of the poll anyone who doesn't engage in a modicum of Catholic practice (only include those who attend Mass weekly, for example), the numbers change dramatically.
Somewhat (^ refers to most recent above source):
34% of weekly Mass attending Catholics are Democrats, and an additional 19% are not affiliated with a party but lean toward the Democrats (53% identifying or leaning as Democrats). 28% of weekly attenders are Republicans and an additional 17% lean toward being a Republican (43 percent identifying or leaning as Republicans). Thus Democrats have a 10% point edge among weekly attendees, Catholics who attend Mass less than weekly are even more likely to be a Democrat rather than a Republican. http://cara.georgetown.edu/NewsandPress/PressReleases/pr061808.pdf
Exit polls in 2008 reported that weekly churchgoing Catholics voted for John McCain over Barack Obama, by just 50 percent to 49 percent. Weekly Protestant church attendees voted for McCain over Barack Obama 66 to 32 percent. http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/churchgoing_catholics_chose_mccain_over_obama/
In the 2012 election (preliminary exit-poll analysis), white Evangelicals (23% of the electorate) voted 79%/20% Romney/Obama; Protestants overall (53% of the electorate) voted 57%/42%; black Protestants (9% of the electorate) and other Christian voted 5%/95%; Catholics overall (25% of the electorate) voted 48%/50%; white Catholics (18% of the electorate) voted 59%/40%; and Hispanic Catholics (5% of the electorate) voted 21%/75% Romney/Obama http://www.pewforum.org/Politics-and-Elections/How-the-Faithful-Voted-2012-Preliminary-Exit-Poll-Analysis.aspx
Weekly Church attendees (28% of the electorate) voted 57%/39% Romney/Obama; more than weekly (14% of the electorate) voted 63%/36% and “never” attendees (17% of the electorate) were at 34%/62% Romney/Obama. ^
A Catholic study reported that the percentage of U.S. adult Catholics who say they attended Mass once a week or more (i.e., those attending every week) was 24% in 2012. http://cara.georgetown.edu/caraservices/requestedchurchstats.html
54 percent of Catholics who came of age before Vatican Two (10 percent of Catholics today) attend Mass weekly, compared to 23 percent of millennial Catholics, those born from 1979 to 1987. http://blogs.thearda.com/trend/featured/counting-catholics-church-of-immigrants-poised-for-growth/
40% Roman Catholics vs. 41% Non-R.C. see abortion as "morally acceptable"; Sex between unmarried couples: 67% vs. 57%; Baby out of wedlock: 61% vs. 52%; Homosexual relations: 54% vs. 45%; Gambling: 72% vs. 59% http://www.gallup.com/poll/117154/Catholics-Similar-Mainstream-Abortion-Stem-Cells.aspx
Committed Roman Catholics (church attendance weekly or almost) versus Non-R.C. faithful church goers (see the below as as morally acceptable): Abortion: 24% of R.C. vs. 19% Non-R.C.; Sex between unmarried couples: 53% vs. 30%; Baby out of wedlock: 48% vs. 29%; Homosexual relations: 44% vs. 21%; Gambling: 67% vs. 40%; Divorce: 63 vs. 46% ^
64% of white evangelical Protestants [blacks make up 6% of all evangelicals] believe abortion should be illegal in all or most cases, as do 52% of Hispanic Catholics, and 41% of white Catholics, and 39% of black Protestants, and 31% of white mainline Protestants. http://www.pewforum.org/2013/01/16/public-opinion-on-abortion-slideshow/
31% of faithful Catholics (those who attend church weekly, 2004) say abortion should be legal either in "many" or in "all" cases.. 2004, The Gallup Organization Gallup Survey for Catholics Speak Out: 802 Catholics, May 1992, MOE ± 4%;
26 percent of Catholics (2007) polled strongly agree with the Church's unequivocal position on abortion Catholic World Report; survey of 1,000 Catholic Americans by Roper Center for Public Opinion Research at the University of Connecticut; http://www.adoremus.org/397-Roper.html
46 percent of Catholics who say they attend mass weekly accept Church teaching on abortion; 43 percent accept the all-male priesthood; and 30 percent see contraception as morally wrong. ^
Among Catholics who attend services regularly (weekly or more), 31% say there should be no legal recognition for homosexual relationships (marriage or civil unions), with 26% favoring allowing gay and lesbian people to marry, versus 43% of Catholics who attend once or twice a month, and 59% of Catholics who attend a few times a year or less favoring allowance of homosexual marriage. ^
27% of Catholics who attend church services regularly say their clergy speak about the issue of homosexuality, with 63% of this group saying the messages they hear are negative. ^
Apparently most did not get the memo, or they do not see this as making Trump worthy of their support.
Ok — but I’m not sure what that even means in the context of this discussion.
just incase you were not aware, “fool” is a biblical term.
And biblically it’s not meant as “abuse” or even “name calling”, but as a way God had Proverbs author help us look at and consider our thinking and ways of acting in life’s events, giving us an option to want to change and grow in wisdom, as God sees wisdom to be and wants for us to have.
I love it when totally fallen away Catholics, now totally protestant, tell everyone what they ‘know’ to be the absolute truth about what a Catholic is, what he thinks, what it takes to be a member of the ‘Catholic club’, and who gets to define what.
nice try.
Religious freedom means nothing to most Catholics because the Catholic Church in the U.S. functions no differently than the “state churches” you find in many communist countries.
The catholic vote will support Hillary as it has supported prior liberal dimocrats.
You won’t get any argument from me on that.
The National “Catholic” Review is a Jesuit publication that is beyond Liberal. Tim Kaine is their hero. Most real Mass attending Catholics would not even recognize this as anything connected to the Catholic Church. Anything they write or say is to be taken with a ton of salt.
I’m Catholic, (for now) and this disgusts me
why would White mainline Protestants and Catholics join the heathen bloc in voting for her?
Government workers, civil servants, public servants, Government Union workers , Teachers...and anyone whose paycheck and or benefits come, either directly or indirectly, from the Federal Government.
I would point out, though, that a term like “liberal Democrat” has almost no meaning in recent presidential elections. There aren’t any substantive issues where a Hillary Clinton administration would be any different than what George W. Bush gave us for 8 years.
Proved again you are foolish by posting something (again) that is nonsensical.
Second Amendment.
Abortion rights expanded.
Homosexual rights expanded.
Importation of Muslims.
Forcing Christians to change their views to adopt the liberal agenda.
Nah....no differences. /sarc
These terrible things that happened, especially the Church hierarchy in Boston covering up for child molestation, has gravely damaged the Catholic Church in America.
Now I think this development was almost inevitable because the average character of man attracted to the priesthood (and thus future bishops, cardinals etc.) has steadily declined over the last few decades.
Now I was an altar boy and one of the priests of our parish was a kind of mentor to me, but I think very few of his kind are no longer there.
When I was growing up, my Dad felt that becoming a priest was a good calling. In his view it was a way to escape some of the rat race of raising a family. And in the 1950s, you had a popular actor/singer, Bing Crosby, playing the part of a priest in a movie. So with that sort of cultural approval, you could attract educated and well-raised men to the priesthood.
But the caliber of person you can draw to the priesthood today is lower because our society no longer respects priest as they used to. And with the lowering of standards to get into U.S. seminaries — and in many cases, staffing churches with priests from foreign countries just to have enough priests to say Mass.
So while we cannot forgive these grevious sins of the Church, we can understand how it fostered by looking at larger cultural forces at play.
And just like our nation, a lack of leadership really hurts. Sorry to say that Pope Francis doesn’t hold a candle to the late Pope John Paul II.
maybe it’s partly due to Jesus did not come to start a religion and all the joining and falling away and bickering is pointless if it’s not leading persons to truly seek deeper relationship with God thru Jesus?
What’s the point of all the denominations and spin off Christian based groups anyway?
I’m finding it hard to find the church to call home since “falling away” from my birth religion and I realized and chose to accept Jesus did not come to start religious groups, He said those so caught up in “religion” were many times misguided or too extreme and missing His point that it’s all about God and each person’s acceptance or rejection of God into all, every single tiny area of their life.
Every christian church I attend has parts of the bible they avoid and parts they cling to be it in their teachings and/or in their way of doing business with the congregation. I think that’s why Jesus said No one comes to the Father except thru HIM. I think He meant that in every moment of a person’s life, not just initial salvation. He also said we are to seek FIRST the kingdom of God. I
t’s not about which religion or denomination or man made rules or groups etc. is correct, it’s about each person desiring to want to deny ourself (feelings thoughts wants etc in any given matter or moment in our life) and following Jesus in that instant - surrendering what we wanted to do in that moment and letting God’s power take us over- because God wants to do so much more in us, thru us, for us then we could ever think of or do for ourself, and for others.
HMMMmmm...
Good for you; Brother!
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