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To: Swordmaker
I don't think its a rare problem. My Son's old phone has it.

http://www.extremetech.com/electronics/236341-apple-is-aware-of-iphone-6-touch-disease-but-refuses-to-discuss-it

Apple is aware of iPhone 6 ‘touch disease,’ but refuses to discuss it

The iPhone 6’s so-called ‘touch disease‘ is a well-known issue within Apple — the company simply doesn’t want to discuss it. That’s according to Apple store employees, who claim that they’ve been informed by both their own supervisors and the company’s internal repair tracking system to be aware of the problem, which can affect both the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus, but is much more common on the latter.

The new report comes courtesy of Motherboard, which helped break the initial story. The problem is related to the iPhone 6’s flexibility and a decision Apple made to remove the underfill from between the touch ICs, which control the touchscreen’s function, and the grid of solder joints that connect these chips to their motherboard. Typically underfill is used to strengthen the connection between the chips and the board, and to ensure that the solder won’t crack. Combine a more flexible device with the lack of underfill, and you’ve got a recipe for disaster. The iPhone 6s and 6s Plus are not currently believed to suffer from this problem.

According to the Apple employees, Apple’s backend system is now designed to immediately lock out repair options for the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus, and to inform customers that their only way forward is to pay a $329 replacement fee if the customer is out of warranty. At first, early phones with a problem allowed for a display replacement under warranty, but this is no longer the case. Apple no longer even allows for a screen replacement in the company’s internal system, suggesting the company knows the problem is in the logic board.

Apple’s official response? Nothing at all. The company has refused to acknowledge or even confirm the issue, despite the fact that unofficial research indicates this is a problem that affects a high percentage of iPhone 6 Plus devices. The standard iPhone 6 is much less likely to have a problem, but it’s not issue-free. And there have been reports of devices failing that have been kept in a hard case for their entire operating lives. At least one of the employees Motherboard spoke to informed them they were quitting the company partly because they were tired of telling iPhone 6 Plus owners they had to pay out $329 for a replacement. Touch disease can be repaired by swapping out the ICs themselves, and some repair shops will fix broken devices for around $200 — less expensive than a full iPhone 6 Plus, but still far too much money for a problem Apple should’ve anticipated. Removing the underfill from a chip is extremely unusual; it’s designed to be used for a reason.

This kind of attitude might’ve been more permissible when smartphones aged quickly and a two-year-old device was begging for the garbage bin. Today, they’re likely to last a good deal longer. The iPhone 3G I bought in 2009 wasn’t very useful by early 2012. My iPhone 5c, in contrast, has aged much more gracefully. As smartphones have become more capable, they’re also aging more slowly (apart from the typical lithium-ion battery degradation, which still sucks). Plus, with the major American wireless carriers, now you can “pay off” the phone and then enjoy a lower monthly bill, something that wasn’t nearly as easy to pull off several years ago — so the incentive to hold onto a perfectly serviceable device is even stronger than it used to be.

Apple is already facing a class-action suit for its touch disease issues. But the company seems to think it can stonewall, wave the iPhone 7, and convert customers without any damage to its brand or name. This behavior is ridiculous, given the the entire problem is Apple’s fault to start with.

15 posted on 10/04/2016 9:15:32 PM PDT by Elderberry
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To: Elderberry
I don't think its a rare problem. My Son's old phone has it.

I've been following this issue since it was first announced and I see nothing new. No further expansion in the numbers of iPhones supposedly being struck down. This latest article is merely a re-hash of the original article from August. Nothing new. There is no increase in the numbers on the help forums, no developments beyond the ones reported in August. I haven't had a chance to call Albert, the head tech at the Apple Authorized Repair Service to see if they've seen any yet since this latest incarnation of the "Touch Disease" article has appeared, but I think I will.

Back in August, the largest forum I found had 700 or so posts. . . with most of the comments being responses offering suggestions to the ones who were questioning what had happened to their phones, not others piping in with "me too" comments you usually see when a serious problem is occurring. My estimate was probably under 100 with the problem at most on that Apple forum. . . and that was at the height of the interest.

Looking across the country at numbers, and analyzing what I found, I estimated that fewer than 1500 per month were being seen at all repair locations. . . out of 250,000,000 iPhone 6 and 6S in the wild. . . for this type of problem from what ever cause.

There are some being affected by this, you and your son may be among them. . . but there is nothing new to indicate there is a huge problem. Even those trying to get a class action lawsuit going have not gotten enough participants joining them to get certified because there simply are not enough being affected by the problem.

The issue seems to raise its head every so often as a blogger resurrects the article as this one was by to get page clicks or when a competitor is releasing another Android phone. This time, I suspect it has to do with the upcoming release of the Google Pixel XL phone.

17 posted on 10/04/2016 9:39:41 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Elderberry; Swordmaker

It happened to my iPhone 6, nine days out of warranty, on Monday. They explained it needed to be replaced, but is out of warranty. Technician spoke with his manager, and they replaced it with a brand new 6 at no charge. I was surprised, but pleased of course.


23 posted on 10/05/2016 4:05:56 AM PDT by TheRake
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