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Murray is starting to see the limits of transnational corporatism.
1 posted on 09/28/2016 5:50:44 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: oblomov

Good for Charles—make it a hundred year pause and then we check the results!


2 posted on 09/28/2016 5:52:09 AM PDT by cgbg (Warning: This post has not been fact-checked by the Democratic National Committee.)
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To: oblomov

We need to limit low IQ immigration. They will most likely be ‘Rat voters.


3 posted on 09/28/2016 5:56:03 AM PDT by Paladin2 (auto spelchk? BWAhaha2haaa.....I aint't likely fixin' nuttin'. Blame it on the Bossa Nova...)
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To: oblomov

I believe this is the Charles Murray who co-authored “The Bell Curve.” He has long been aware of the effects of indiscriminate immigration.


5 posted on 09/28/2016 5:58:35 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: oblomov

Who will do the “jobs Americans won’t do”? I mean, we pay our indigenous low skilled population welfare to NOT work, and then complain there’s nobody to do the job. This isn’t something new. We’ve been paying people to sit on their sorry butts and do nothing but breed more of the same for decades now. Those people don’t want a job. They however, expect EBT cards.


7 posted on 09/28/2016 6:03:10 AM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory.)
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To: oblomov

The Cheap Labor Express expressing doubts?


8 posted on 09/28/2016 6:04:43 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam , Know Peace)
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To: oblomov

Yes, we should end low skill immigration. But our native low-skills need to do their part by changing their destructive lifestyles of drugs, illegitimate kids, divorce, no education, more tattoos than work ethic, etc.


9 posted on 09/28/2016 6:13:45 AM PDT by Socon-Econ
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To: oblomov

You can cut off low-skill immigration, but you still have to convince low-skill Americans to work.

There are something like 90 million working-age Americans out of the labor force, who are able to stay there because of government support. There’s a very high “welfare cliff” in this country.

What will it take for these Americans to take jobs picking apples, driving trucks or sweeping floors?


10 posted on 09/28/2016 6:26:18 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: oblomov

“The thing that has gotten to me over this year … has been the very simple idea that the citizens of a nation owe something to each other that is over and above our general obligation to other human beings” outside the United States, Murray said Sept. 26.

How could it not have occurred to Murray that it is in the vested self-interest of ALL citizens not to nurture an underclass of the permanently unemployed, who at best depend on government, and often descend into crime? Limiting immigration helps citizens who pay the welfare costs for both the new immigrants and the displaced Americans? It is in everyone’s self-interest except large employers who want to keep their own labor costs low but shift the costly effects onto others. The oversupply of unskilled labor drives the price down below a subsistence level. The only solution is to stop flooding the market with supply.

For years, Murray has presented outside-the-box facts and analysis with high intelligence and courage. That he has only just figured this one out show how blinding Ideology can be.


11 posted on 09/28/2016 6:41:27 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: oblomov

Low skills?

LOL!

How about no skills pertinent to a 21st century culture and production.

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12 posted on 09/28/2016 6:41:42 AM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: Impy; stephenjohnbanker

Patriotism springing up among libertarians ...

“I have had to undergo a great deal of rethinking on all of this this year… [now] I want to shut down low-skill immigration for a while,” Charles Murray told a D.C. event hosted by the Center for Immigration Studies.

“The thing that has gotten to me over this year … has been the very simple idea that the citizens of a nation owe something to each other that is over and above our general obligation to other human beings” outside the United States, Murray said Sept. 26.

[snip]


17 posted on 09/28/2016 7:01:45 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (ICANN giveaway complete any day now. Call Congress. Yes to SB3031 HR5418)
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To: oblomov

Who said intellectuals were smart? This guy always gets on my nerves.


22 posted on 09/28/2016 7:25:44 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: oblomov

High skilled H-1B visas should be slashed to zero too.


23 posted on 09/28/2016 7:27:24 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: oblomov
“The thing that has gotten to me over this year … has been the very simple idea that the citizens of a nation owe something to each other that is over and above our general obligation to other human beings”

outside the United States...

OMG! Someone 'gets it'...

28 posted on 09/28/2016 7:49:15 AM PDT by GOPJ ("..unbridled ambition, greedy..with a husband still dicking bimbos at home"- Colin Powell on Clinton)
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To: oblomov

Brilliant! /s


32 posted on 09/28/2016 8:24:10 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (when the MSM wants your opinion, they will give it to you Leary is this)
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To: oblomov

The weird thing about such Libertarians is that they seem to believe that Libertarianism will survive unfettered immigration and no enforcement of national borders. What is the typical form of governance in the Third World? Authoritarian dictatorship, which is exactly what they’ll get if they have their way on immigration. It’s naive beyond belief, what they’re pushing. I’ve had my day thinking I was Libertarian for a few years, but this was one of the issues that pushed me away. It’s sheer stupidity.


37 posted on 09/28/2016 10:05:34 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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