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A 14-year-old has been allowed to "decide" to die
Fox News.com ^ | September 24, 2016 | Dr Keith Ablow

Posted on 09/24/2016 2:35:27 PM PDT by Kaslin

Jerika Bolen, a 14-year-old girl with Spinal Muscular Atrophy Type 2, has been allowed to end her life— her own decision—by having her ventilator disconnected. She died Thursday.

Jerika had told her mother that her chronic pain, along with her very significant physical limitations (including relying on a power wheelchair), made her welcome the idea of death.

Jerika clearly was no coward. She had endured more than 30 surgeries for her condition since being diagnosed at eight months of age. Her family made it possible for her to enjoy movies, fireworks, sleepovers and a community-wide “last dance” prom this summer, before her ventilator was turned off.

I am certain Jerika suffered greatly during her inspiring life and I am certain her family endured untold psychological pain, alongside their daughter’s mental and physical anguish. And, yet, I believe that they erred in collaborating in her ending her life.

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To: Talisker

When you take your own life you take a chance that you will not be with the Lord. God gave us free will. I hope that girl is in Heaven with God but I would not bet my life savings on it. Physical age almost always coincides with spiritual maturity and a child who is suffering is more likely predisposed to make a bad choice.

As a christian I believe you are obligated to embrace the death that God sends you. Some deaths are easier than others and only God knows why.


41 posted on 09/24/2016 4:23:40 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Kaslin

Freud’s idea of the death instinct = pleasure-pain principle + desire to escape from pain and return to an inorganic state that is free of tension


42 posted on 09/24/2016 4:29:31 PM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: HamiltonJay
A fourteen year old having lived with a painful and ultimately fatal disease requiring multiple procedures year after year essentially since birth is much older than most 70 year olds. I have always been impressed by how far beyond their years these patients are.
43 posted on 09/24/2016 4:47:59 PM PDT by Ophiucus
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To: Cicero
I agree with Dr. Ablow that it would have been better to strongly advocate for other alternatives, including advances meds for pain management and depression. These conditions are treatable: and as I understand it, such meds are neither burdensome nor futile.

Finding a reason to live --- for the good of herself or for a good example to others --- even one more week, one month, one year, is also a very good thing to advanceas a positive alternative. I'm thinking she might have liked to make a music video...? With a favorite artist?

OTOH I'm not fully convinced that removing a vent is suicide, if the vent itself is terribly burdensome. I have some experience with this type of medical judgment (my own and my mother's) and in both cases, I believe we were right to go forward with the ventilator, despite the fact that it was rather ghastly and in my mother's case --- as it turned out --- futile.

Is removing a vent suicide? I could be persuaded either way. It is not morally obligatory to accept burdensome and futile treatment. And ventilation is not what's considered basic palliative care, which I think is always morally obligatory.

Comments?

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More discussion may help clarify this for me.

44 posted on 09/24/2016 4:50:55 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (L'Chaim.)
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To: Cicero
May God forgive her. Suicide is the one unforgiveable sin

She had a ventilator removed. That can hardly be called "suicide". Suicide is when your body is currently able to sustain itself, without the intervention of outside heroic measure, and yet you still take your own life. And yes, suicide is sin.

45 posted on 09/24/2016 5:12:11 PM PDT by politicket (1 1/2 million attended Obama's coronation - only 14 missed work!)
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To: Cicero

This was not suicide. She was being kept alive by non organic methods. An electric ventilator. I would have requested the same thing

It’s a very difficult discussion and decision. But, her soul is not compromised by this decision !


46 posted on 09/24/2016 5:14:59 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: Georgia Girl 2

And?


47 posted on 09/24/2016 5:17:12 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: Georgia Girl 2
I would argue that at age 14 she does/did not have the perspective to make that decision.

I would argue that you don't have the perspective to know what pain and torment she went through to make that decision. But God does.

48 posted on 09/24/2016 5:23:34 PM PDT by BipolarBob (My Maserati does 185.)
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To: Kaslin; fieldmarshaldj; GOPsterinMA; Clintonfatigued

:(

Horrible. RIP.


49 posted on 09/24/2016 5:24:41 PM PDT by Impy (Never Shillery, Never Schumer, Never Pelosi)
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To: lee martell
This must have been written last week. The young lady is now deceased.

Maybe you missed it while reading the article instead of just the headline, so here's the second sentence:

She died Thursday.
50 posted on 09/24/2016 5:25:54 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: Cicero

She was a child in pain, the fault lies with the doctors and parents who allowed this.


51 posted on 09/24/2016 5:29:18 PM PDT by Impy (Never Shillery, Never Schumer, Never Pelosi)
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To: Kaslin

As long as she knows Jesus, she is fine. At 14, she probably fully understood the consequences of her action and death after the withdrawal of artificial ventilation is a natural death.


52 posted on 09/24/2016 5:45:30 PM PDT by grumpygresh (We don't have Democrats and Republicans, we have the Faustian uni-party)
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To: BipolarBob

Pain and suffering are not new. Millions of people live with debilitating disease for their entire natural life. They pass on when God wills it. No one knows for sure if God forgives taking your own life. Its a serious decision likely better made at a more mature age.


53 posted on 09/24/2016 6:12:11 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Cicero

Chronic pain at 14. To much too soon.


54 posted on 09/24/2016 6:24:04 PM PDT by Mark was here
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To: Kaslin

No matter how you cut it, this is horrific.


55 posted on 09/24/2016 6:28:51 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Cicero

This young lady did not commit suicide! Our Lord had a plan to her life and destiny and she just allowed His wishes to come true.


56 posted on 09/24/2016 7:33:12 PM PDT by Cupiara
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To: Georgia Girl 2
When you take your own life you take a chance that you will not be with the Lord. God gave us free will. I hope that girl is in Heaven with God but I would not bet my life savings on it. Physical age almost always coincides with spiritual maturity and a child who is suffering is more likely predisposed to make a bad choice. As a christian I believe you are obligated to embrace the death that God sends you. Some deaths are easier than others and only God knows why.

Whatever you might think of your own life, your position on this matter shows you have not really ever suffered. You speak frivolously, as one who has only read books. IMO, if you keep it up, God will send you an opportunity to learn compassion. My advice therefore, FWIW, is that you make the effort to learn that lesson before God breaks your pride.

Physical age almost always coincides with spiritual maturity...

In my experience, that is not true at all.

57 posted on 09/24/2016 8:03:34 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Kaslin

May this poor darling rest in peace. It is beyond comprehension that such a young person had to pass her life in such a parody of living. I only hope that she is beyond her pain and at peace now.


58 posted on 09/24/2016 8:04:52 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: Mrs. Don-o
From a Catholic bio-ethics perspective, ventilators usually are extraordinary measures. I believe nutrition and liquid are considered 'required'.

Here's a link to a PDF that outlines some guidelines: http://www.ncbcenter.org/files/6914/6946/4143/What_About_Ventilators_June_2012.pdf

59 posted on 09/24/2016 9:07:56 PM PDT by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: Impy

Wow...:(


60 posted on 09/25/2016 4:59:02 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (I'm with Steve McQueen: I live my life for myself and answer to nobody.)
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