[Voluntaryist]

[MUDDOG]

Getting harder and harder to pull the RealClearPolitics average back to Hillary.

[LouieFisk]

“We Gave Four Good Pollsters the Same Raw Data. They Had Four Different Results.” - NYT
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/09/20/upshot/the-error-the-polling-world-rarely-talks-about.html

[apillar]

Pathetic, democrats had a six point turnout advantage in 2012 which was considered a good turnout year with Obama on the ballot. The NBC pollsters are actually claiming that democrat turnout for Hillary is going to be eight points higher than it was even for Obama in 2012?!?!

[Spok]

That could backfire by persuading liberals to think the election is in the bag and that they can stay home in November. The left is pulling out all the stops and nothing, absolutely NOTHING, can be believed.

[eclectic]

Market manipulation, as usual.

[Helicondelta]

NBC/WSJ had the worse track record in the primaries. It was a joke. Always underestimating Trump’s numbers.

They are skewing the RCP average in Hillary’s favor and giving her a false sense of comfort.

[HenpeckedCon]

Hitlery isn’t acting like she’s up 6 points.

[MNJohnnie]

Given their track record, why does anyone take this poll seriously?

[RayChuang88]

However, if you look at true internals with correctly balanced weighing of respondents, everyone knows Hillary is still trailing. The very fact there are huge number of people now openly showing Trump election signs even in the supposedly “blue” states show that Trump is building a movement on a level few have seen before.

[Ray76]

We must push Trump up to a bigger lead.

[Antoninus]

[SoFloFreeper]

well everyone knows the Democrats are very very energized to vote for Hitlery in record numbers.

[stylin19a]

thanks...not sure why they didn't use further down QF4: Looks like 45 RAT; 37 Repub

Generally speaking, do you think of yourself as a Democrat, a Republican, an independent, or something else? (IF "DEMOCRAT" OR "REPUBLICAN," ASK:) Would you call yourself a strong (Democrat/Republican) or not a very strong (Democrat/Republican)? (IF "NOT SURE," CODE AS "NOT VERY STRONG DEMOCRAT/REPUBLICAN.") (IF "INDEPENDENT," ASK:) Do you think of yourself as closer to the Republican Party, closer to the Democratic Party, or do you think of yourself as strictly independent? (IF "NOT SURE," CODE AS "STRICTLY INDEPENDENT.")

Strong Democrat ..............................22
Not very strong Democrat ................10
Independent/lean Democrat ..............13
Strictly Independent...........................13
Independent/lean Republican ............12
Not very strong Republican ..............10
Strong Republican ............................15
Other (VOL) .....................................5
Not sure ............................................ -
+ Results shown reflect responses among registered voters

[Grampa Dave]

Murduck owns WSJ and his minions have been doing this bs since Trump started winning the primaries. The article below was posted in Feb, 2106, and they are still posting the same lying bs.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3398474/posts

Three Strikes - 3rd Time This Campaign Season NBC/WSJ Caught Promoting Agenda Polls
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | 02/17/2016 | Sundance
Posted on 2/17/2016, 4:57:15 PM by PJBankard

The team of NBC and Wall Street Journal (Rupert Murdoch owned) has struck again with their latest highly coordinated and heavily manufactured latest “Agenda Poll”. We have previously revealed NBC/WSJ’s prior two constructs.......

[SNIP]

Remember, an “agenda poll” is not created to show a statistical snapshot of the presidential race. An “agenda poll” has nothing to do with the support. Agenda Polls are manufactured to create media talking points, to create media narratives.

Agenda polling is about setting out to make a story, to sell a specific narrative, by using polling as the means to justify the story you are selling. Nothing more, and nothing less.

[Tanniker Smith]

Kind in mind when adjusting these polls: from 1996-2012, Dem turnout was 4-6% more than Republican turnout every time, except 2004, where it was even.

Also, the Independent vote has been pushing upward.

[FenwickBabbitt]

Say it ain’t so. And here I thought the NBC/WSJ polls were good ones. They were so accurate after all when they were the only polling outfit that said we’d have GOP nominee Ted Cruz running against Hillary now. /s

NBC/WSJ polls have been insanely off-kilter outliers for over a year now. I would have thought their nonsense polls from the primaries would have already been enough to blow their credibility. Obviously, credibility is not something they are trying for.