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'Burke did it'
The Daily Mail ^ | 1/19/16 | Khaleda Rahman

Posted on 09/20/2016 7:59:03 AM PDT by traderrob6

JonBenet Ramsey was killed by her older brother Burke and it was covered up by her parents after a fight over a midnight snack of pineapples, investigators have claimed.

The six-year-old's mother Patsy Ramsey called 911 on December 26, 1996 to report that her six-year-old daughter had been kidnapped from her family's home in Boulder, Colorado.

JonBenet, a child beauty queen, was found beaten and strangled on the floor of the family's cellar several hours after the 911 call.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: brotherburke; coverup; jonbenet; jonbenetramsey; murder; mystery
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To: traderrob6
very early on, on a crime web site, it was mentioned that there was a third voice on the 911 tape, and I recall something to the effect of "haven't you done enough"....

always pretty much thought this was an accident either by the parents or the brother....

Burke was never allowed to be interviewed by the cops alone...infact I'm not sure either of the Ramseys were interviewed individually at all....the lie detector tests they took years after the incident to me are moot....

what is the worse is the staging of the "crime" scene....

I truly feel Patsy took this the hardest of anyone...the daddy seems to be emotionally detached to all of it...

and Burke....he is one odd dude....maybe even light in the loafers....

you see folks...all is not well with the rich....they have lots of secrets...

121 posted on 09/20/2016 11:35:16 AM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry

I don’t believe Burke Ramsey has ever taken a lie detector test.


122 posted on 09/20/2016 11:40:20 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: Qwackertoo

Violent behavior between siblings almost always escalates to being fatal if unchecked.


123 posted on 09/20/2016 11:43:19 AM PDT by jmacusa ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!''-- Popeye The Sailorman.)
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To: LouieFisk
IIRC Lin wood was their lawyer, who threatened to sue anybody speaking against the Ramseys in any way...

he also, IIRC, was the chief lawyer for Kobe Bryant when his little "problem" was mysteriously fixed by an out of court settlement....poor Kobe.

124 posted on 09/20/2016 11:45:48 AM PDT by cherry
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To: cloudmountain
I guess the parents either didn't see it or just decided to ignore it.

The father, John Ramsey, had a 22 year old daughter by his first marriage that was killed in an auto accident in 1992. Then his other daughter, JonBenet, was tragically killed.

The speculation I heard on the local talk radio this morning was that John was faced with losing his third and last child, the 9 year old son, to the authorities if it was discovered that the son did indeed kill JonBenet. So he and the wife chose to save him by lying to the authorities.........

125 posted on 09/20/2016 12:01:34 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (If only Hillary had married OJ instead......)
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To: LouieFisk

I have always felt that Patsy’s sister, Pam, wrote the note. Sisters, in my personal experience, have very similar handwriting. My younger sister’s handwriting and mine are very similar, as well as my 4 sisters-in-law looking like each other’s.


126 posted on 09/20/2016 12:10:19 PM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: cloudmountain
As an addendum, on the show this morning they interviewed retired Wayne County coroner, Werner Spitz, who is sort of a legend in his trade.

He recounted that the police in Colorado invited him out to help in the investigation. However when he got there, no one from the dept. showed up other than a technician who presented Spitz with a slide that contained wooden fragments that were found in JonBenet's genitals.

Spitz then asked to visit the Ramsey house but police said that the Ramsey's would not allow it............

127 posted on 09/20/2016 12:11:46 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (If only Hillary had married OJ instead......)
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To: nickcarraway
But the District Attorney should be charged as an accomplice. He is the reason that it was never resolved.

Why did he submit to the parents?

128 posted on 09/20/2016 12:20:35 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: AppyPappy

There was evidence of digital penetration and scaring.The police questioned the Ramsey’s on it.The coroner found wood inside of her from the staging.


129 posted on 09/20/2016 1:00:32 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: traderrob6
Lying in perpetuation of a coverup is the virtual definition of a co-conspirator.

No it isn't.

Conspiracy requires communication between the perpetrators. If someone on this thread knows that Burke is guilty of the crime by some kind of inside knowledge -- maybe one of his girlfriends is a FReeper -- say, and falsely posts that he's innocent, she is not a co-conspirator. She is simply someone withholding evidence and lying about that. Possibly this is a crime depending circumstances and the laws governing hearsay in a particular jurisdiction, but it is not conspiracy, per se.

Burke is also not part of a conspiracy, since he could not have been part of a conspiracy as a nine year old. His ongoing lies do not draw him into the planning of the commission of any future crime, unless he and his father or older half-brother have actually discussed the cover-up along with plans to continue it. Without coordination and a plan to commit a future crime, there is no conspiracy.

130 posted on 09/20/2016 1:01:28 PM PDT by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward Fifth Avenue to be born?)
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To: traderrob6

The preposterous ransom note points to the Ramseys.
The DNA in the panties points to an intruder.
The panties were huge and did not fit Jonbenet.
Patsy lied, saying she’d never seen the panties before the murder, when in fact she’d purchased them.


131 posted on 09/20/2016 1:05:28 PM PDT by mumblypeg (Make America Sane Again)
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To: FredZarguna

LOL, good luck pushing that line of reasoning in court.

If you knowingly and with another (conspire) to give false statements concerning a known crime in furtherence of a false narrative concerning that crime, you ARE guilty of conspiracy.


132 posted on 09/20/2016 1:26:02 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: traderrob6

The real brain twister is was a crime committed as Colorado law pretty much makes it nigh impossible for a nine year old to commit a crime.


133 posted on 09/20/2016 1:31:33 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: AppyPappy
Not only will the men pay for the abuse, they will pay to keep it quiet. It’s like a never ending source of income.

Honestly, I don't think the mother in this case was bright, or with it, enough to think of that angle. I think all she wanted was drugs, and found a way to get them quick.

134 posted on 09/20/2016 1:35:08 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool - you bet that Tommy sees! - Kipling)
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To: traderrob6
knowingly and with another

Notice that even in your supposed "refutation" you actually prove my point. Thanks.

Two elements are required for criminal conspiracy: knowledge that what you are planning is a crime, and involving at least one other person.

Burke could not knowingly participate in a conspiracy as a nine year old. In our law, we accept that children do not understand crime.

Later, he could not be indicted for conspiracy unless he reinforced the obstruction with someone else. Both elements must be present at the same time.

135 posted on 09/20/2016 1:43:28 PM PDT by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward Fifth Avenue to be born?)
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To: FredZarguna

You aren’t really going to try and make the case that he didn’t know????

And his parents were the “others”.


136 posted on 09/20/2016 1:47:06 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: FamiliarFace

Could be, my sister’s handwriting was similar to our Mom.


137 posted on 09/20/2016 1:53:47 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: FamiliarFace

Some think Patsy wrote it with her left hand .


138 posted on 09/20/2016 1:54:03 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: IYAS9YAS
3) A neighbor reported seeing a light in the Ramsey’s breakfast/kitchen area around midnight, and possibly a shadow or shadows moving in the light. He stated he’d never seen a light on in that area of the house - at that time of night - before.

How often was said neighbor up after midnight looking at that particular area of the Ramsay's house?

Excellent question. As I recall, apparently often enough to realize they hadn't seen that before. This neighbor was positive he'd seen a light or lights on in the house, as opposed to the nutty new age neighbor lady who claimed she heard a child's scream in the middle of the night. When she was interviewed again later she wasn't sure if it was the actual physical scream of JonBenet, or simply the negative energy leaving her body.

139 posted on 09/20/2016 1:55:16 PM PDT by Kharis13 (That noise you hear is our Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: mumblypeg

“The preposterous ransom note points to the Ramseys.
The DNA in the panties points to an intruder.
The panties were huge and did not fit Jonbenet.
Patsy lied, saying she’d never seen the panties before the murder, when in fact she’d purchased them.”
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The DNA could have come from anyone along the “line of purchase”, as it might be termed. It exonerates nor implicates anyone, so it’s just a red herring.


140 posted on 09/20/2016 1:58:28 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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