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NRA Endorses Democrat for Governor in Missouri
ammoland ^ | 13 September, 2016 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 09/16/2016 5:44:20 AM PDT by marktwain

I am the NRA

The NRA has been a bi-partisan group, at least since the formation of the NRA-ILA in 1975. The NRA-ILA is the lobbying arm of the NRA.

In the last few elections, few Democrats have been endorsed, because few Democrats supported the Second Amendment in any meaningful way.

As they say, the NRA did not leave the Democrat Party.  The Democrat Party left the NRA. There are exceptions.  A controversial pick was Harry Reid, Senator (D) from Nevada, who got an A rating from the NRA.  Many have wanted the NRA-ILA to broaden their criteria to issues other than the right to keep and bear arms.

There are problems with that approach as well.  How can you judge someone’s future actions?  The best approach is to rely on past actions; but it is not a 100% predictor.

Democrat politicians who have actively supported Second Amendment rights are still being endorsed by the NRA.

The best of all worlds for the Second Amendment Supporter is to have all parties competing for the NRA endorsement.

That is what is happening in Missouri.  Both the Republican and Democrat candidates for governor are strong supporters of the Second Amendment.

In this case, it is the Democrat who received the NRA endorsement.  From governing.com:

The NRA Political Victory Fund said Koster’s commitment to the Second Amendment earned him an “A” rating.  

“For over 17 years, he has fought to preserve the constitutional rights of law-abiding Missourians,” said Chris W. Cox, chairman, NRA-PVF. “The NRA is proud to endorse Chris Koster and we urge Missouri’s gun owners and sportsmen to get out this November and vote to elect a governor with a proven record of fighting to preserve the Second Amendment.”


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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: 2016endorsements; 2016swingstates; banglist; governor; gunvote; koster; mo; mo2016; nra
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To: liberty_lvr

I would never knowingly vote for a Democrat. I may not vote for a Republican, but I would never vote for a Democrat. Why? Because, on Judgment Day when I stand before God and he asks me, Why did you vote for someone that believes in murdering My Creations while they are helpless in their mother’s womb? How will I answer Him?


21 posted on 09/16/2016 6:09:01 AM PDT by sport
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
It’s the first time FB has endorsed a Donk.

I had heard about the endorsement but did not realize it was the first time for a 'Rat.

I'm under no illusion about where Koster's loyalties lie, but the recent veto override session gives me hope that the legislature can actually keep his big-spending habits in check. I rarely vote against someone, (current occupant of the White Hut excepted) but I will NEVER vote for that phony crook Greitens. NEVAH...!!

22 posted on 09/16/2016 6:09:37 AM PDT by liberty_lvr (My personal likes and dislikes are totally irrelevant to the salvation of this nation.)
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To: liberty_lvr
The man is poison, and the Repub voters in MO bought his stinking line of schtick hook, line, and sinker.

What happened was a massive number of democrats picked up Republican ballots in the primary and elected this "guy" as the repub nominee!

23 posted on 09/16/2016 6:11:22 AM PDT by painter ( Isaiah: �Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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To: marktwain
When both parties compete to support the Second Amendment, Constitutional government wins.

The dems who appear to support the 2nd Amendment are just posturing. The party allows them to appear to be 2nd amendment supporters so they can be elected in strong 2nd amendment districts. However, if the dems ever get close to passing some sort of gun ban, they will call in all the chits of those so-called 2nd amendment supporters in order to pass it, and this will get in line. This is what happened with so-called pro-life dems when Pelosi needed every vote she could scrape up to pass Obamacare.

There are no authentic dems who support gun rights.

24 posted on 09/16/2016 6:13:45 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ("Political Correctness is communist propaganda writ small" - Theodore Dalrymple)
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To: liberty_lvr
Koster has gone to bat for Missouri's electric co-op system, pushing to block Obama’s coal crackdown. If the cooperative’s coal burners were taken off line, power bills would jump 20-25 percent, according to one source.
Koster has also pushed back on the new water rule being pushed by the Obamas. It would federalize even the water in a farm pond.
25 posted on 09/16/2016 6:15:45 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
For the purpose for which it was intended,

Yes. Chris cox got to brag about having endorsed the winner. YAY! for Chris Cox. < spit >

It helped get a lying gun-control freak elected to the US Senate. Bottom line.

NRA issuing endorsements when both candidates appear to deserve an A rating is stupid and evil. Endorsing the anti-gun democRAT Party is stupid and evil. We didn't get Constitutional Carry (for example) by getting the democRATs to support our position. We got it by kicking their sorry asses out of the legislature and overriding the democRAT Governor's veto.

NRA is not "playing chess". They're playing Russian Roulette with 5 chambers loaded.

26 posted on 09/16/2016 6:17:34 AM PDT by NorthMountain (Hillary Clinton: corrupt unreliable negligent traitor)
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To: marktwain

Here we go again.

We had two good candidates in Bunner and Kinder but we end up with the choice of a turd sandwich or a cup of goat piss.

Rediculous that we had so many candidates and open primaries.

I suspect there was crossover Dems voting in our primary.

Can we give St. Louis to Illinois?


27 posted on 09/16/2016 6:18:39 AM PDT by Romans Nine
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To: DiogenesLamp

“Do not fret about this. This is exactly what the NRA should do. So long as Democrats understand that the NRA will support them if they defend the second amendment, Democrats are more willing to defend the second amendment.”

I don’t mind state-level endorsements of Democrats (if they are superior, of course), but when you get to the Senate, there’s a lot more at play there. For example, even if Manchin did stay pro-gun, how would he vote on judges or treaties. All it takes is one ruling from the Supreme Court holding gun manufacturers liable for shootings and it’s adios to the gun industry. Or one other ruling stating that the Second Amendment only applies to militias...

That’s why party should count, at least at the US Senate level. At lower levels, even in the US House, the damage that the one person on left can do is much more limited.

So for the Senate, Dems should ALSO have to demonstrate that they will buck their party on issues pertinent, but not immediately affecting, gun control, such as judges. And clearly no Democrat Senator meets that standard today, and the last ones that I can remember that probably did were Zell Miller and Richard Shelby (before he became a Republican).


28 posted on 09/16/2016 6:20:32 AM PDT by BobL (If Hillary wins, there WILL NOT be another contested election, for decades - AMNESTY)
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To: marktwain

I have been a life time gun owner and user. I will never join the NRA as long as they endorse Democrats.


29 posted on 09/16/2016 6:24:02 AM PDT by Lucas McCain (Liberalism is the willful embrace of abject stupidity.)
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To: marktwain

This is a weird year in Missouri.

The democratic candidate once was a republican.

The republican candidate is suspected of being a democrat.

And in the race for Senate, the democratic candidate reassembled an AR 15 while exposing his gun grabbing beliefs


30 posted on 09/16/2016 6:31:22 AM PDT by AlbertWang
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To: Dr. Wu
--Reid was quite pro-gun earlier in has career and as majority leader kept some of the anti-legislation off the floor.

--he "grew" in office---check out his change in attitude toward illegal immigration , also---

31 posted on 09/16/2016 7:04:02 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: DiogenesLamp
--good letter --you understand reality also--

--the NRA has to work in the real world of Washington, DC, not some fantasy where we sturdy yoemen hold off invading UN troops at the left bank of the Mississippi----

32 posted on 09/16/2016 7:10:52 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: marktwain
You would have thought the NRA would have learned their lesson about trusting Democrats after “A” rated Joe Manchin (D) of West Virginia. He was supposedly a rock ribbed 2nd amendment defender and the gun owners best friend, going as far as to shoot Obama’s Cap and Trade Bill in a commercial. Then literally the day that Sandy Hook occurred he raced out and endorsed the Assault Weapons Ban (he later backed off when he got a bunch of flak from his voters), but he still put his name proudly on the “Universal Background Check” Bill (that thankfully died in the Senate).
33 posted on 09/16/2016 7:29:45 AM PDT by apillar
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To: marktwain

why would a man be demo is the question.

koster,(rob redfords twin bro) remember the name, next dim. prez


34 posted on 09/16/2016 7:46:05 AM PDT by urtax$@work (The only kind of memorial is a Burning memorial !)
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To: liberty_lvr

With Koster as Governor we have no hope of passing Right to Work legislation in Missouri. Greitens favors RTW.


35 posted on 09/16/2016 7:50:05 AM PDT by donozark (My thoughts are not very deep. But they are of and inquisitive nature.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Read and interesting thing the other day. Article stated there are no Democrat State Legislators south of I-70 corridor (Stl./KC excluded) except one District (132) in Springfield. A veritable sea of Republicanism!


36 posted on 09/16/2016 7:53:32 AM PDT by donozark (My thoughts are not very deep. But they are of and inquisitive nature.)
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To: marktwain

“When both parties compete to support the Second Amendment, Constitutional government wins.”

Sorry, but you can’t ignore the “whole package,” and the NRA’s support radical RATs makes it impossible for me to maintain my membership.


37 posted on 09/16/2016 8:14:38 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: marktwain

Well said.

This reminds me of last year on FR when someone asked me who I would vote for if the election came down to Jeb Bush or Hillary Clinton and I replied that I’d vote for the candidate who admitted to being a Democrat.

Bottom line for me is I vote the Constitution and I vote for my country. I have no loyalty to any political party.


38 posted on 09/16/2016 9:23:14 AM PDT by MeganC (JE SUIS CHARLES MARTEL!!!)
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