Posted on 09/14/2016 4:52:02 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee
The last time Russia’s sole aircraft carrier sailed into the Mediterranean Sea, five years ago, the U.S. Navy’s 6th Fleet kept a close eye on its progress. The concern among American officers wasn’t the ship’s contingent of fighter planes; instead, it was the very real worry it would sink and necessitate a potentially risky rescue operation.
The 26-year-old Admiral Kuznetsov made it through that 2011 deployment without sinking and is now headed back to the eastern Mediterranean this fall as part of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s effort to use Syria as a showcase for his new model military. But the earlier worries were plenty valid: On a 2009 Mediterranean transit, one sailor died when the vessel caught fire, and the ship accidentally dumped tons of fuel into the sea in a refueling mishap. And those accidents aren’t outliers. The problems with the ship are so widespread, and so expected, that the flattop has to be shadowed by tugs to tow it to port when it predictably breaks down. . .
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We understand 'it's the Russians!' is this week's Clinton talking point but put some proper effort into it.
The Russians are coming, the Russians are coming...
Interesting article. But basically not really serious. It informs us of the weaknesses of skijump carriers (like the Brits are building now)
Then it points out an accident resulting in a death, and a fuel spill.
It says everyone was afraid it would sink, but never explains why.
"Ceterum censeo Hillary esse delendam."
Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)
LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)
We've moved beyond the question of whether Hillary will win. The question now is, did she ever really want to? Imagine thinking this 'big bad Russkis' crap would fly.
A Navy friend claimed that for each tour on a carrier, they had one or two fatal accidents. Circa 1970- 1980.
Finding this:
The number of U.S. sailors and Marines that have died in and around aircraft carriers is shocking — 8,500 from 1948 to 1988 (when it was just as safe to fly off a U.S. carrier as a U.S. Air Force tarmac).
I wish the Russians all success and safety in their Friends of Obama abatement program.
There was an article a month or so ago that I read that stated wherever that aircraft carrier goes it is followed by an ocean going tug in case it breaks down
It’d be pretty funny if it turns sideways and sinks at the most narrow point of the Bosphorus Strait.
Minimum width there is about 2300 ft and the length of the carrier is about 990. Don’t know what the depth is there.
10 carriers x 6000 crew/deployed carrier = 60,0000 total deployed staff. A mortality rate of 1 percent (life expectancy of 100 years - very healthy and well cared for crew) = 600 per year x 40 years = 24,000 deaths compared to the 8,500 quoted.
So it sounds like being on an aircraft carrier is a very safe place to be based upon these statistics.
I’m surprised with Obama’a flexibility, he hasnt given them one of ours.
But they only are deployable ~30% of the time .
They are mostly healthy young bucks too.
MY guess is that if OSHA had a say , they would never leave port!
This is a VERY dangerous line of work, and that is in peace time.
The fatal injury rate for
workers in the private construction (24.9 for agriculture-.07 for ED & health) industry was 9.5 per 100,000 FTE workers in 2014 and 9.7 per
100,000 FTE workers in 2013.
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/cfoi.pdf
I hope it sinks. I’m tired of the Putin-lovers here.
In the three years I was on a CVN, we lost 11 people in accidents that I can recall with clarity (30 years ago). Assuming we had a crew of 6000 (which we didn’t), that would equate to 61.1 per 100k.
A lot safer than Baltimore, Chicago, Milwaukee, L.A., and Detroit.
I question why a Trump supporter would post such a silly/creepy picture. I don’t think anyone would want the President to take off his shirt and sit behind a shirtless Russian dictator on a horse like some woman behind a guy on a motorcycle. WTH?
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