Then there was the trooper with Custer who blew out his brains when he found his "wife" ha died. Upon preparing the body of the wife for the funeral the wife turned out to be a man dressed as a woman.
Posted on 09/09/2016 9:22:33 AM PDT by MarchonDC09122009
Muslim Marine recruit killed himself amid culture of hazing and abuse: Officials - Breaking911
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Muslim Marine recruit killed himself amid culture of hazing and abuse: Officials September 8, 2016 | 6:01 PM
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Marine Corps completes three command-level investigations into allegations of abuse and maltreatment at Marine Corps Recruit Depot, Parris Island / News release
WASHINGTON — The Marine Corps has completed three command-level investigations into allegations of abuse and maltreatment at Marine Corps Recruit Depot, Parris Island, to include an investigation into circumstances surrounding the March 18, 2016, death of Recruit Raheel Siddiqui.
Findings from the Siddiqui investigation conclude that Siddiqui’s death was the result of suicide. Additionally, the investigations revealed departures from the policies and procedures established for Marine Corps recruit training, specifically within three platoons within Third Recruit Training Battalion. Commanders and senior enlisted advisors at the series, company, battalion and regimental level were relieved in the wake of Recruit Siddiqui’s death and a number of drill instructors have been suspended. Currently, twenty Recruit Training Regiment personnel have been identified for possible military justice or administrative action.
The findings of the investigations include allegations of: – Recurrent physical and verbal abuse of recruits by drill instructors, with a noted insufficiency of oversight and supervision at various command levels; – Improper assignment of a drill instructor for duty while under investigation for previous allegations of assault and hazing; – Maltreatment of new drill instructors by more experienced drill instructors; – Gaps in awareness by commanders regarding their roles within the command investigation process; and, – Anomalies and inconsistencies in the policies and procedures responding to suicidal ideations or statements.
Training and Education Command officials have initiated immediate actions at our recruit training depots to prevent the recurrence of issues identified in the investigations, to include: – Mandatory suspension of personnel who are being investigated for recruit abuse, hazing, or maltreatment; – Additional visibility and reviews of investigations above the regimental level; – Modification of the assignment process for drill instructors and officers; – The cessation of any practice that is based on differentiating between drill instructors of differing experience levels (with the exception of the Senior Drill Instructor billet); – Establish and enforce a zero-tolerance policy for “hat-hazing” (or hazing among drill instructors); – Increased officer presence and supervision of training; and, – Review and revise mental health processes, procedures, and suicide prevention protocols.
Marine investigations into the death of a Muslim recruit recommends criminal charges, officials said. https://t.co/eUugzDE6ys 🔓
— Capital Journal (@WSJPolitics) September 8, 2016
“I fully support and endorse these initial actions,” said Commandant of the Marine Corps Gen. Robert Neller. “When America’s men and women commit to becoming Marines, we make a promise to them. We pledge to train them with firmness, fairness, dignity and compassion. Simply stated, the manner in which we make Marines is as important as the finished product. Recruit training is, and will remain, physically and mentally challenging so that we can produce disciplined, ethical, basically-trained Marines,” said Neller.
Neller added, “We mourn the loss of Recruit Siddiqui, and we will take every step necessary to prevent tragic events like this from happening again.”
Their imams send them into the services for training to be ready for future action.
I asked him if Full Metal Jacket was in any way realistic.
He said yes, not that much different. It was brutal. But they can't do things like that anymore.
(Like punching recruits.)
True.
Generally speaking, the better the unit, the lower the rates of PTSD. There are scars here and there in the brain, sure. But the quivering malingering PTSD types are generally not the tip of the spear.
And you are correct as to the reason why. The intense training has prepared them fairly well for what they will do.
Its odd, but a lot of PTSD comes from REMFs and people with a lot of time to think. Grunts are too damn tired.
Another huge component of PTSD is the homecoming. If the nation is proud of them, they do better. If the nation seems to be flipping them the finger or indifferent...not so much. IE...Korea and VN.
Then there was the trooper with Custer who blew out his brains when he found his "wife" ha died. Upon preparing the body of the wife for the funeral the wife turned out to be a man dressed as a woman.
Sir, Thank you Greatly for your many years of service and devotion to our nation.
I appreciate your perspective as well.
It would be helpful if there was an initial psych test that was highly accurate at screening out undesirable candidates, ie: eliminating those who were a danger to fellow comrades and themselves.
RE: “Every one in Basic, or Boot camp, get yelled at and put under a lot of pressure. The idea is to teach you how to act under pressure and to weed out those who can’t. As the XO for a Basic training company. Part of my job was to do the paper work on those who don’t make it. While we did not have any one kill themselves, it was not unheard of. Some people can not take it. Better to get them out in Basic than in combat where they can get others killed to.”
Never heard that story about the cross dressing wife and suicide before. Can you back it up with a source?
Don’t forget Combat Airman under Special Forces.
“It would be helpful if there was an initial psych test that was highly accurate at screening out undesirable candidates”
There is, but psychology is not a true science, and no fully accurate prediction tool exists. What does exist is blunted by politically correct ideology.
Found it! I read it in a different book back in the 1970s.
http://www.truewestmagazine.com/noonans-last-stand/
A dispatch from Bismarck, Dakota Territory, informed the world: “A singular development transpired at Fort Lincoln today. Mrs. Sergeant Noonan, who died last night, turns out to be a man…. There is no explanation of the unnatural union except that the supposed Mexican woman was worth $10,000 and was able to buy her husband’s silence. She has been with the 7th Cavalry nine years.”
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“Burkman was with the post carpenter on Noonan’s last day: “Noonan walked in. His face was gaunt and sorta set. The carpenter looked up. ‘Hello Noonan!’ he says. ‘Say, you and Mrs. Noonan never had no children, did you?’ We all started laughin’ and then we stopped sudden. Noonan was standin’, lookin’ at us … like an animal that’s been hurt. Then, afore we had sense to stop him he pulled out his gun and shot hisself dead, right thar at our feet.”
You are absolutely right.
Can anyone tell me how we cultivate a new crop of Americans who love freedom more than Muslims love forcing everyone to submit to them in the name of Allah?
How can we pierce thru the MSM-Academia-Powers that Be, lies encouraging subjugation?
How do we bring back the Red-blooded male and a country that is fully worthy for him to fiercely defend and die for if need be?
Grievous about where we are and heading to...
RE: “There is, but psychology is not a true science, and no fully accurate prediction tool exists. What does exist is blunted by politically correct ideology.”
MCRD San Diego, circa 1969, out of 75 recruits in our squad, about 30 graduated. heh heh..
We don’t need any of them thar Mooslims in our military!
Balderdash.
We will never know this person's heart, but it's quite possibly that he loved his country every bit as much as you or I did, or even moreso, and that he wanted to give something back to his country in appreciation for what it had given him.
And if there was an illegitimate or improper component to what occurred, then that should be fully addressed.
I'm certainly not going to flippantly dismiss or second-guess the comments of the Marine Corps Commandant. If he supports the recommended actions, I will defer to his judgement.
“I fully support and endorse these initial actions. When America’s men and women commit to becoming Marines, we make a promise to them. We pledge to train them with firmness, fairness, dignity and compassion. Simply stated, the manner in which we make Marines is as important as the finished product. Recruit training is, and will remain, physically and mentally challenging so that we can produce disciplined, ethical, basically-trained Marines”.
152 in my basic training company.
148 went to Viet Nam.
One spoke Mandarin Chinese and the CIA grabbed him to use as an interpreter.
One guy had health issues and they sent him home.
One guy set his M-16 on fully auto and blew his head off while in a fox hole on the rifle range. Girlfriend sent him a dear JOhn note.
I went to the Pentagon.
When my daughter graduated from MCRD Parris Island, we went to the ceremonies. After the pinning ceremonies, recruits are released to spend the rest of the day with their families. However my daughter had some physical issues from the time she went in to the time she graduated and had to wait for the next class to catch up to her and then be assigned to that class to complete her training. There were several young women in her class that had experienced the same thing.
But the assigned D.I’s treated them like second class citizens in that after the pinning the DI handed out their new ID cards to the “original class members”. The late joiners had to go to on their own during their family time and wait for processing. It cost us 3 hours of sitting around the base until she could be released. Only left us time for dinner and then to take her back to base.
Her uncle who was with us and is a retired Gunnery Sgt. took exception to that “treatment” and contacted his buddy who by then was the Sgt. Major of the Marine Corp, John Estrada, who he had served with from boot camp, and other postings, to express his disappointment with that. I don’t know if anything ever came of it.
The type of Marines who served in the South Pacific during WW2 and/or served on the Korean peninsula no longer exist...
God help us if we ever get into another land-war with the commie chinks...
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