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Kidnapped teen was gang-raped, killed and fed to gators
Fox News via NY Post ^ | August 29, 2016 | Brittanee Drexel

Posted on 08/29/2016 5:38:36 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo

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To: DiogenesLamp

I could retort (being faithfully “contrarian”) that if we ever leaned on “government” or even “society” to guide us as to what was Christian, we went to the wrong places. Even in a time that saw more friendliness to the faith. But it’s true that “Because of iniquity, the love of many will grow cold.” All some people knew of the Lord was indirect, through society or government. And when secular trends began to fight against that, those people fell.

I’d like to beg the indulgence to assert that we should welcome secular friends to the faith, but never ever lean on them. Let a stout private fire to the Lord burn in our hearts, one that does not depend on secular fuels.


61 posted on 08/29/2016 6:56:01 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
I would avoid places where thugs hang out, but I would not indiscriminately apply the same brush to all.

Well said. I've had run-ins with some crappy black punks and wish they were dead. However, I've had a lot of good black friends and still do. You soon figure out what type of person anyone is, whether white or black, and decide whether to allow them to get close. I know some crappy white trailer trash people and keep my distance. Punks come in all colors.

62 posted on 08/29/2016 6:56:14 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: DiogenesLamp

Eight years of Walter Williams as president would have been far, far, far better for America, than eight years of obama.

And I would have voted for him and made sure everyone I knew did too.


63 posted on 08/29/2016 6:56:36 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

No, I’m not judging you; I’m weighing your comments and find them lacking grace and wisdom. Skin color is neither a magnet nor a defense against evil. Avoiding anyone who is possessed by demons is wise, all the more so a gang. In this wicked world we need all the righteous, of any tribe under heaven, and blacks are no exception.


64 posted on 08/29/2016 6:59:08 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
That being said, it is possible to learn to read people — and also possible to not go around cruising for evil, if I can belabor the glaringly obvious. You might get ripped off through abused trust just the same, but are far less likely to get brutally mugged, if you don’t cruise for evil.

I have seen many examples of young white girls seeking adventure in the drug dealing streets. I have seen several that I knew personally come to a bad end. It is as you say, they chased a lifestyle that had a high probability of ending badly and quickly.

There is a forbidden Taboo attraction for a lot of white girls between themselves and black members of the street culture. It is some sort of "thrill" that pulls at them. Women are often attracted to "bad boys", and how much more forbidden can you get than a violent black drug dealer?

Again, i've seen many girls jump into this life. I used to have several black drug dealer friends, and we've spent hours talking about street culture, and women. (They have since moved away, and last I heard, one of them has had a stroke.)

Some of them are quite intelligent and very philosophical. People would be surprised.

65 posted on 08/29/2016 7:02:06 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Pretty sure he had it guarded pretty well, while being there to show that he was down with the bros.

I expect that is true, but that is true of a President pretty much anywhere. I'm sure the Secret Service has reached a clear understanding with the street captains of that area.

Wisdom embraces a wide variety of circumstances, including why you’re where you are in the first place. There may be excellent reasons to tread into danger, but larks are not among them.

"Larks" are among the primary motivation of well to do young white girls. Sensibility is not usually something of which they have an abundance.

66 posted on 08/29/2016 7:04:57 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: af_vet_1981

Circumstances make a lot of difference. A policy that might make sense in someone’s circumstances might not make sense in someone else’s.

When my mother passed away untimely, a seemingly nice black lady she knew offered to help with the household chores. She’d make lunch for me and keep the clothes washed as well as using the laundry for her own items, something that we gladly granted. But she began to pilfer. When Dad and I happened to check the silverware chest and found it almost picked clean, we called an end to it. Sometimes things like this happen. We don’t think any of our white acquaintances would have done this. Trusting only in situations where verification can be exercised, may make sense when some heuristics apply. And sometimes deals that seem too good to be true (on a human level, when we know it isn’t explicit Christian charity) in fact, are.


67 posted on 08/29/2016 7:06:57 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: junta

“The toad being the smart one in the picture.”

You must be a liberal to make such a hateful statement, if not you are a POS.


68 posted on 08/29/2016 7:10:36 PM PDT by stockpirate (BEST F'ING ELECTION EVER)
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To: DiogenesLamp

“Foolishness is bound up in the heart of a child, but the rod of discipline shall drive it far from him [her].”

Sometimes people have to learn through bitter experience, or the bitter experience of others. I’m no exception, though I have not fallen in with illicit drug dealers or been murdered by them (obviously).

This is a messy world. We can not make it fundamentally neat. We can only impose a modicum of order.


69 posted on 08/29/2016 7:12:13 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

We are forced by the Marxists to raise these sub-humans to kill us and our children.


70 posted on 08/29/2016 7:13:15 PM PDT by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: arthurus

Another hateful liberal troll shows his head to freepers.


71 posted on 08/29/2016 7:14:42 PM PDT by stockpirate (BEST F'ING ELECTION EVER)
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To: PLMerite
But I told her not to tell her son. Her son is a good man, too, but if he did not know he couldn’t casually mention it to any of his friends, or this friends to their friends.

That is why my house was never broken into. I guarantee you that two degrees away were thugs, guys he didn’t even know.

My best friend during and after high school was black. (Richard) He and I spent many hours over at each others houses, and I remember giving his nephew piggy back rides when he was little. They lived in the milder portion of what was regarded as a predominately black part of town. Two blocks away was ground zero for the bad sh*t, (Drugs, prostitution, shootings, etc.) but I didn't go down there or even near it except in broad daylight, and only by car.

Richard is now a Teacher and he and his wife earn a good living. I am the Godfather of his son Mathew.

Richard's nephew grew into a 250 pound monster of a drug dealer. I saw him many years ago but I have not heard how he fares recently.

But your point confirms with my experience. Good people often have contacts with bad people. Richard's older brother was also in the bad crowd.

72 posted on 08/29/2016 7:15:32 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: stockpirate

I think some context obviously applies.

The problem is not always one of intelligence, but of wisdom. We sometimes think we’re smart enough to play around with evil and not get burned. And because of that illusion, we let evil charm us instead of sending it packing the moment it begins to charm us.

The toad might have been wiser, we could say, after having read the overall picture.


73 posted on 08/29/2016 7:15:58 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: junta

Why? What a despicable thing to say.


74 posted on 08/29/2016 7:17:00 PM PDT by Lucas McCain (Liberalism is the willful embrace of abject stupidity.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Shocking but wben you seek tbe company of vipers and hyenas you will be killed and eaten. Darwin Award contender.


75 posted on 08/29/2016 7:18:20 PM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I’d like to beg the indulgence to assert that we should welcome secular friends to the faith, but never ever lean on them. Let a stout private fire to the Lord burn in our hearts, one that does not depend on secular fuels.

This issue is one among many that I often contemplate. As someone I used to know said: "The law is a normative force."

There is a huge segment of "the herd" minded people who will go along with things because they are officially sanctioned. The fallacy of popularity is only a logical fallacy. Emotionally it is a very valid principle. Most people want to fit in, and will follow whatever ideas are considered proper by the majority.

Women are especially conformist to the the herd mindset.

Your point is whether or not there should be any compulsory Christian (or other religious) doctrine in governance. I can't really say if this is correct or not beyond noting that when there was, the USA was a lot more moral and behaved a lot more responsibly.

76 posted on 08/29/2016 7:20:35 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

It might have, and yet do we want to rejoice in whitewash.

If an eternal score could be kept, one might question whether earthly good manners bespeak the currency of heaven, which is a soul bought by the Son. People can have sub-salvational walks before the Lord, where they are trying to look good enough to the Lord to earn a pass into heaven. This is a common parasitical philosophy in what we might call Christendom. Civic manners will improve; but souls furthered on their way to eternal heaven may not.

God might have good reasons to let the bottom fall out of a civic scene, when the cost of NOT doing so would be the cost of obscuring eternal truth.


77 posted on 08/29/2016 7:24:24 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: roadcat
Well said. I've had run-ins with some crappy black punks and wish they were dead. However, I've had a lot of good black friends and still do. You soon figure out what type of person anyone is, whether white or black, and decide whether to allow them to get close. I know some crappy white trailer trash people and keep my distance. Punks come in all colors.

Agreed. I have in my life had a lot more trouble with crappy white people than I have had with black. I know I could go find some trouble with them if I was looking for trouble, but this is not something any sensible person would do.

On encountering them, I treat everyone I meet with respect. I look them in the eye and I shake their hands. On the street, an upwards nod generally conveys the same sentiment.

78 posted on 08/29/2016 7:25:48 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Secret Agent Man
Eight years of Walter Williams as president would have been far, far, far better for America, than eight years of obama.

I tried to tell anyone who would listen back in 1995 that we needed to get a black candidate. (At the time I was thinking Colin Powell. Boy was I wrong about him!)

I argued he would win in a landslide and we could advance conservative ideas because our candidate would have a mandate. It would have been the most fantastic Hail Mary pass we could have accomplished if we had only had the balls to do it.

And we picked Boring Bob Dole.

The Same vote dynamics that worked for Barack Obama would have worked for us had we had the sensibility to just see it.

79 posted on 08/29/2016 7:30:08 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Bobalu

How about phasers set to maximum!


80 posted on 08/29/2016 7:31:56 PM PDT by ealgeone
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