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Three Reasons Why Popular Support for “Universal Background Checks” Doesn’t Matter
thetruthaboutguns.com ^ | 8/28/2016 | Robert Farago

Posted on 08/29/2016 8:53:53 AM PDT by rktman

"When it comes to gun control and the Second Amendment, Democrats and Republicans are deeply divided except for a few safety measures such as background checks on gun sales,” huffingtonpost.com reports, analyzing a Pew Research report released Friday. (Click here to read.) Pew examines the pew-pew views of Trump and Clinton supporters. The results aren’t surprising, but they are revealing.

Both candidates’ supporters favor “background checks for private and gun show sales” by a wide margin. Here are three reasons why the supposedly pro-gun Trump voters’ support for “universal background checks” (UBC’s) is irrelevant.

(Excerpt) Read more at thetruthaboutguns.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist
Most voters are apparently EXTREMELY un-informed. Both sides if you could trust the chart.
1 posted on 08/29/2016 8:53:53 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

Only a fool believes that another law will prevent criminals from buying guns.


2 posted on 08/29/2016 9:08:17 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Only idiot liberals believe that disarming the sheep makes them safe from the wolves.)
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To: rktman
There is only one real reason that popular support for "Universal Background Checks" on the sale or transfer of guns does not matter: THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC.

This is supposed to be a Constitutional republic, supposedly in which the rights of individuals are not subject to being voted out on a whim by a tyrannical majority, even if they just "wanna feel safe".

The 2nd Amendment says, "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." If I have to get a government background check to use my buddy's shotgun, AR, or Glock, that's an infringement. If I have to get a background check to buy a gun, that's an infringement by the government on my rights.

It is not the government's place to say who should or should not own a gun, unless that person is a convicted felon. If government wants to provide a list or a database of convicted felons where people can check a potential buyer if they want, that's fine. But the SECOND the government is in charge of denying you a gun sale, that's an infringement. See the difference?

3 posted on 08/29/2016 9:10:04 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (AMERICA IS DONE! When can we start over?)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Exactly. Intergalactic universal background check laws are not followed by... wait for it... criminals.


4 posted on 08/29/2016 9:11:37 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (AMERICA IS DONE! When can we start over?)
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It is not the government's place to say who should or should not own a gun, unless that person is a convicted felon.

That is the 'camel's nose under the tent'. It allows government to get involved with its licensing and background checks. Once involved, they never go away.

5 posted on 08/29/2016 9:15:37 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Don't question faith. Don't answer lies.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

See my tagline.


6 posted on 08/29/2016 9:19:27 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Only idiot liberals believe that disarming the sheep makes them safe from the wolves.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

One of the reasons I don’t like a “permitting” process to carry. You need approval for something that is supposed to be guaranteed to not be infringed? Seems like infringing to me.


7 posted on 08/29/2016 9:22:34 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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There’s nothing about UBCs in the Constitution.

I should register with a dictator.

Note to said dictator: F__k You!!!!!!!!!!


8 posted on 08/29/2016 9:34:35 AM PDT by onedoug
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Nothing about obtaining a permit to carry either.


9 posted on 08/29/2016 9:36:05 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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"Shall Issue" permits were a huge improvement over the discretionary permits and outright bans that preceded them. But they're also an infringement. They have served as a stepping stone back to Constitutional governance.


10 posted on 08/29/2016 9:42:09 AM PDT by NorthMountain (Hillary Clinton: corrupt unreliable negligent traitor)
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You know what they can do with their damned permits?


11 posted on 08/29/2016 9:46:48 AM PDT by onedoug
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Why Popular Support for “Universal Background Checks” Doesn’t Matter

Reason number 1: Because it's de facto Universal Gun Registration. Taking both the Second and Fourth Amendments into consideration, such measures are inherently un-American, and indeed unconstitutional.

There don't need to be many more reasons than that.

George Washington, the father of our country, was involved after the War. He helped draft the Constitution during the Summer of 1787. In the words of historian John Fiske, Washington "lent his character and experience toward securing the adoption of such a federal constitution as should make anything like a dictatorship forever unnecessary and impossible".

It is in that spirit I speak when I say that any Law which would so directly enable potential Tyranny of that magnitude in the United States is Tyrannical, and, almost by definition, unconstitutional.

Vote Trump!

12 posted on 08/29/2016 11:32:55 AM PDT by sargon (Anyone AWOL in the battle against Hillary is not a patriot. It's that simple.)
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If liberals can have whole cities and states ignore immigration law for years without consequence, liberals have established the precedence for conservative states to opt out of new federal gun laws. In fact, for conservatives, the refusal to implement new stricter gun laws is stronger because their freedom from those restrictive laws is more closely tied to the Constitution.


13 posted on 08/29/2016 3:11:59 PM PDT by tbw2
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