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1 posted on 08/28/2016 8:25:29 AM PDT by pb929
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Gee, I am so surprised, even astonished that I don't see a mention of this anywhere in the drive-by media.

Almost as if it didn't happen.

2 posted on 08/28/2016 8:29:24 AM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim (Make America Great Again!)
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Thanks!!! I was unable to upload your page with the graphs. Could you post them here?


3 posted on 08/28/2016 8:30:14 AM PDT by navymom1
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Thanks. Of course, two-way polling is silly. I don’t know what Johnson and Stein will get-—as high as 13% combined or as little as about 7-8% combined, but the majority (not all) will come from Cankles.


4 posted on 08/28/2016 8:34:34 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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Polls are just part of the crooked, rigged system aimed at manipulating public opinion.

Obviously it’s a problem for the Media-Democrat-Academia Complex if they come out and say Trump is way ahead.

Lying to say Hillary is way ahead flies in the face of what people know to be true.

So, they started with Hillary having a small edge, Trump slipping backward. Now they’re starting to use the “T word” - (tie). I suspect this will be the mantra from here forward, “it’s too close to call” - then let the election rigging machinery ensure that Hillary gets the win.

Polls are tools just like TV ads. No one regulates or certifies polls so they can be total BS and have the same impact as if they were scientifically sound. Pollsters are paid to do them by someone who is NOT a neutral observer, and who pays for things that are contrary to your interests? Spin the polls to show a close race, then cheat to make sure your candidate wins by a slim margin - I think that’s the gameplan.


5 posted on 08/28/2016 8:35:42 AM PDT by bigbob (The Hillary indictment will have to come from us.)
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Let me be the first to say “Trump has really stepped in it! It’s all over for him now!”


6 posted on 08/28/2016 8:38:23 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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So in other words you change the actual poll results to create a new one that says what you would like it to say, rather than what it really said.


7 posted on 08/28/2016 8:38:56 AM PDT by babble-on
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I guess to me the real question is who is winning the 8-10 states that will be deciders
in this election. National polls are good to get general opinions but this election
is decided on a state by state basis. Polling in CA or TX as examples are givens. JMO


8 posted on 08/28/2016 8:40:47 AM PDT by deport
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I’m truly convinced that tied is equal to Trump plus the margin of error.

I realize that polls are +/- 3-5 which leads me to believe that this is Trump’s lead.

Brexit polling showed 48-46 stay in the roundabout average for pre-election estimates. It ended up being 52-48 leave. That’s an underperform on the exit call and spot on for the stay call.

I honestly think Trump v Clinton is going to be the same type of invisible polling results. People will not tell pollsters their true mindset, at least 3-5% of them.

In fact I believe that admitting Trump support this election is going to be even more muted in the polling data than Brexit leave support.

I have no basis to substantiate this other than my own gut instinct, how Brexit polling got it wrong and the media stuffing polling and opinion polls for her thighness.

If Trump is ever up +3 in polls you’re looking at a 6-8% popular vote advantage.


10 posted on 08/28/2016 8:42:10 AM PDT by PittsburghAfterDark (The American media: We do what the Soviet media did without the guns to our head.)
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Well you can bet if the LAT and Reuters say we have a tied race, then Trump is probably a bit ahead and the we have not even past Labor Day yet.

Focus on the polls about two weeks out from the vote.


11 posted on 08/28/2016 8:48:32 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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Well you can bet if the LAT and Reuters say we have a tied race, then Trump is probably a bit ahead and the we have not even past Labor Day yet.

Focus on the polls about two weeks out from the vote.


12 posted on 08/28/2016 8:48:32 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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Good work. That’s my read on this as well.

The internet polls that are weekly have it narrowing to a 3-5 point race as well.

I think the Q poll showing +10/+7 is an outlier. Missing from the picture is the live phone polls from the networks.


13 posted on 08/28/2016 8:58:28 AM PDT by NYRepublican72 (Radical Islamic terrorist Omar Mateen is "Ready for Hillary!" Are you too?)
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Good work. The trend is definitely towards Trump. Even the crooked rigged Reuters poll shows that on a straight trend line Trump overtakes Hillary for good by mid September.


14 posted on 08/28/2016 8:59:20 AM PDT by usafa92 (Trump 2016 - Destroying the GOPe while Making America Great Again!)
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It may all depend on how many of the 90 MILLION who normally don’t vote show up for Trump...


16 posted on 08/28/2016 9:07:31 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.com)
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As the polls become more favorable for Trump, we’ll hear less and less about them.


20 posted on 08/28/2016 9:20:19 AM PDT by Spok (PT."What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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Checking Reuters Ipsos; which was one of those showing a deficit, race is tightening up definitely, yes, we want Trump 3% ahead and more.


27 posted on 08/28/2016 10:10:19 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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28 posted on 08/28/2016 10:11:45 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (He wins & we do, our nation does, the world does. It's morning in America again. You are living it!)
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I figure the polls will stay reasonably balanced and the media will do whatever they can to dismiss any Trump lead or good news. I think some peopled are cowed into not admitting to a pollster that they support Trump. The enthusiasm at his events, I’ve been to several, is unmistakable, and the contrast of his huge crowds to Clinton’s meager, small events is undeniable.


29 posted on 08/28/2016 10:15:43 AM PDT by Reno89519 (It is very simple, Trump/Pence or Clinton/Kaine. Good riddance Lyn' Ted, we regret ever knowing you)
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How can we even study polls when we know the msm is in the tank for the democratic party, every time?

Everyone that I know voting for Hillary is on the Dem opiate.

The folks I know voting for Trump doesn’t answer polls or plan on skewing their true intent.


32 posted on 08/28/2016 10:36:50 AM PDT by Molon Labbie (Hillary- Time To Change the Bag...)
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Trump is rising, Hillary is sinking.


33 posted on 08/28/2016 11:08:44 AM PDT by Bon mots
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“Tied” equals 10 point Trump advantage.


34 posted on 08/28/2016 11:26:23 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Bill and Hillary Clinton are the penicillin-resistant syphilis of our political system.)
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