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The Comeback of Middle Wage Jobs
Real Clear Markets ^ | August 26, 2016 | Robert Samuelson

Posted on 08/26/2016 3:43:31 AM PDT by expat_panama

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To: expat_panama

And now a reality check from Virginia. Our governor is announcing a $1.5 billion budget shortfall for the current year. The reason? Significant shortage in withholding tax revenue. Yet, the statewide unemployment rate is under 4%. The Governor makes announcements about new jobs almost daily. So, how do you square these two? Stagnant wages, FT jobs being replaced with PT jobs, influx of illegals putting downward pressure on wages.

No, all is not unicorns and rainbows.


21 posted on 08/26/2016 5:21:00 AM PDT by EagleClaw
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To: expat_panama

expat_panama wrote “—and would we really opt for a win for politics first.”

Yes, I would opt for a win for politics first, over anemic and perhaps, economic numbers like this. Even assuming the numbers are completely accurate, the slight growth shown here can’t be sustained in a Lib dominated world. And that’s what will happen in November without a lot of work.

The left parades articles like these every four years about this time when they are the incumbents. If conservatives are in power, the academic mill churns out article after article about the sky falling.

People on Free Republic have watched this like clockwork and are right to attack them.

Oldplayer


22 posted on 08/26/2016 5:29:08 AM PDT by oldplayer
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To: kabar
Labor participation rates are at 38 year lows.

Here's what we got:

It's been level for a couple years now.  These are the realities we need to deal w/ when we try to understand that half the U.S. does not agree w/ us.

23 posted on 08/26/2016 5:30:09 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: oldplayer
...choose between feeding our families and having our political faction win...

...I would opt for a win for politics first...

A lot of folks feel that way and somehow it seems to me a bit well, unhealthy.  Like, disfunctional. Maybe it's a guy thing, that my feeding my family has to be much higher up on my "to-do" list.

24 posted on 08/26/2016 5:35:47 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama

Due to inflation 30k to 60k ain’t what used to be. Plug ‘em into an inflation calculator and see.


25 posted on 08/26/2016 5:36:07 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Common Sense 101
...accepting reality require that we believe there is no inflation, and if in fact there was, food, gasoline...

 Let's keep in mind the fact that the price of a gallon of gasoline is about half what it was eight years ago.

26 posted on 08/26/2016 5:42:05 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama

I would steal if necessary to feed my family. But when I read articles like this during election season, I am skeptical. They are wholly politicized, even if there is some truth in the underlying information.


27 posted on 08/26/2016 5:42:08 AM PDT by oldplayer
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To: oldplayer

I call this a BS article based on BS Gov. data. If there are any significant gains they will be in Gov. and Healthcare. Both of which just squeeze more money out of the middle class. How does that help when both segments need to be torn to the ground and start over.


28 posted on 08/26/2016 5:50:57 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: expat_panama
The Fed economists report that middle-wage workers - earning roughly $30,000 to $60,000 - represent the fastest growing segment of the labor market.

It's just that ten years ago, those used to be $60,000 to $90,000 jobs. :)

29 posted on 08/26/2016 5:55:16 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: expat_panama
Cherry picking a few years does not make a trend. Here are the labor participation rates over the past 38 years:

Civilian labor force participation rate

Type of data: Percent or rate

Age: 16 years and over

And who is getting these jobs? Immigrants are taking the jobs and depressing wages. We have a labor surplus, which is why annual household incomes have declined. And we have growing numbers of those out of the labor force.


30 posted on 08/26/2016 5:58:03 AM PDT by kabar
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To: expat_panama

How do you explain record numbers of people on food stamps? You underestimate the other side’s capacity for data manipulation and lying. People unemployed don’t even count as unemployed.


31 posted on 08/26/2016 6:02:32 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: expat_panama

The average cost of a gallon of gas (across the US) when Obama took office was $1.86. While there are/were a few selected places that got lower, I personally have ever been able to achieve that low of a price since then. Go look it up.


32 posted on 08/26/2016 6:12:06 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: TalBlack
They cooked the employment books right before the 2012 election.

What makes you think they're not doing the same thing now?

33 posted on 08/26/2016 6:12:22 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: expat_panama

There are always “bright spots” in the economy if you are willing to look for them.

A severe recession = a Golden Age for the repo business.


34 posted on 08/26/2016 6:14:32 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: expat_panama

Rah rah rah! More cheer leading mediocrity.


The economy grew at a 0.8 percent pace in the first quarter. It grew 1.0 percent in the first half of 2016.


35 posted on 08/26/2016 6:33:12 AM PDT by citizen (Sanctuary cities: Illegals move in for free stuff, residents move out b/c they can't pay the taxes.)
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To: 1rudeboy

“No, I do not respect you. You spend far too much time here.”

lol...


36 posted on 08/26/2016 7:15:44 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Poo poo the polls at Trump's peril.)
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To: citizen
mediocrity....   ...1.0 percent in the first half of 2016.

Yeah, just came out at 1.1 for Q2 as expected.  

 

Sounds like you're saying this is bad, after all this level of increase is less than the previous decade which was less than the decade before (long range here). 

At the same time half the voters prefer 'mediocrity' coming out of O's two terms over what we had coming out of W's two terms.  The point being that we either see what is or we're delusional. 

That and the fact that the article is about a resurgence of mid-income jobs, not GDP.

37 posted on 08/26/2016 8:15:05 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama

Do you even read the articles you link to? Try this one:
There’s No Recovery for Central Bankers to Create


How could it be that the Federal Reserve and all the rest were so deficient in their money expertise and capacities? What they will find will be nothing short of stunning, an institutionally entrenched effort decade after decade to suppress and intentionally set aside monetary evolution because of nothing more than perceived threats to the status quo where they sit on top....
...Central bankers cannot create the recovery because there is no recovery for them to create. Their monetary understanding of the modern age is limited by their ideologically driven intentions to not understand...That is why even central bankers are starting to panic, offering the increasingly ridiculous (as if NIRP weren’t enough) and absurd because the standard denial is now long past its expiration.


38 posted on 08/26/2016 8:23:13 AM PDT by citizen (Sanctuary cities: Illegals move in for free stuff, residents move out b/c they can't pay the taxes.)
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To: Gaffer
...accepting reality require that we believe there is no inflation, and if in fact there was, food, gasoline...

 Let's keep in mind the fact that the price of a gallon of gasoline is about half what it was eight years ago.

when Obama took office was $1.86.

If we're changing the subject to politics then the price of gas was $1.68/gal a month before O took office compared to July '08 at $4.10/gal when O was running for office, but what you'd brought up was inflation, not politics.   This is hard to follow because the article doesn't mention 'inflation'.  You jumping in and out of here from some other thread I don't know about or something?

39 posted on 08/26/2016 8:38:38 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama

Realclear... has become a progressive joke.


40 posted on 08/26/2016 8:41:53 AM PDT by pabianice (LINE)
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