Posted on 08/25/2016 5:16:12 PM PDT by hotsteppa
Did he not smoke out even more establishment types, including now even Limbaugh who bought the media narrative?
This is more than delicious and I called it when it happened.
After watching this whole brouhaha trying to set the narrative to diminish Trump, the campaign led by he himself with steady advice from Steven and Kellyanne, are actually setting the narrative while the left is hyperventilating trying to set the next distraction.
The amazing this is the left is being played to their weaknesses and I think his strategy has Steven written all over it tacked by guidance through his study of the left.
If you notice, they lend to the left’s current narrative by not stating the details of their immigration plan other than to keep repeating that they will enforce the laws. By canceling the expected speech on Thursday, they lend into the pins and needles the left is setting on ready to pounce once the expected “force” plan is announced, so they just continue to chatter about it raising the awareness of when it is finally given.
For most in the chattering class, they do not know what the laws are or are unwilling to report them. They will be forced to admit what the laws are when the Trump campaign finally comes out with their plan and cites actual statutes which gives the left nowhere to go but to again try to lie about it. But, most will be forced to see the truth, again.
In the pond fishing world, they call that hook, line and sinker.
“There’s no path to legalization unless they leave the country,” Trump told CNN’s ... [snip]
Just like he said all along. The only way back is through ‘touchback’.
What categories? The ones most likely to help make America great again.
When you get right down to it, IMO, Trump should be a little more specific:
Illegals who have been here 15 years or more, have been crime-commission free, and wish to stay legally, must pay a fine (something consistent with a serious misdemeanor), say, $2500.00. (I just semi-randomly picked a state: $2500 is the maximum Class A misdemeanor fine in IL.) They must also pay back taxes including interest, including SS tax payments. Citizenship and voting rights will not be granted unless the illegal voluntarily leaves the country (the US will provide ground transportation for the illegal and their family, as well as legal assistance for family members needing visas to leave with the illegal(s), and the illegal can then apply for legal entrance with no more or less rights or priority than any other foreigner with family members in the US who is seeking entrance.) Current quotas of entrants will NOT be increased.
If an illegal cannot prove past income (pretty darn likely) then they will be assumed to have had an income of 75% of U.S. median income for each year involved.
I think it’s a pretty sure bet that the payment of back SS taxes and the fine (actual income taxes might be pretty low in most cases) will knock out 90% of those who wish to stay — back home they will go...
Now wait a minute — Rush Limbaugh has been doing a good job lately. I mean, he might not sound like an ‘Info-Overload’ FReeper, but I remember when he was really bitter. It was painful back then. Not now.
Come to think of it, he even said [this very week] that some former members of the Reagan administration think that Trump is Reaganesque!
I wish he could have commented on Farage’s speech. That’s my only critique. But he was too busy DEFENDING Trump.
“He said illegals who had not committed any crime other than coming here would be able to stay by paying taxes and a fine”
In my mind, the “coming here” is the kick-off crime — their “original sin”. They need to go back. Period. And their offspring, too (the sins of the father). Why reward people for an illegal act — for trespassing on our country?
To be sure, any proposal like mine above will have its flaws. The above is “something I could live with”, that I hammered out with a moderately liberal friend.
BTW, the “family member in the US” bit applies only if the prospective entrant HAS a close family member sponsor(s) in the US, who is (are) a citizen(s). All the rules about financial support, etc., still apply, just like they did for my wife. (I had to PROVE she would not go on welfare / that I could support her, even though she had valuable employment skills of her own.)
If they are paying back taxes including SS and interest, (see my post above) and a significant fine, cannot become citizens, and cannot vote, that’s a pretty serious “payment” for the crime.
Of course, I realize that not paying the usual IRS penalties on back taxes is being VERY lenient. And under what circumstances would the tax fraud statutes apply? Trump did say “any other crime...”
How I’ve been thinking about it... take pictures, ID them, blood samples for DNA, fingerprint, and if they come back they do hard labor. It’s a felony to come here illegally. They’re not dreamers; they’re invaders. Just look at La Raza’s mission statement. They want to take the southwest. That’s an invasion, and needs to be dealt with as such.
Get a life, doofus. I’m a huge Trump supporter no matter what but I want immigration fixed.
Any system which allows them to stay just means they will eventually get amnesty.
The main issue with your plan is that many people who have been here illegally for a long time have lived almost as if they are legal citizens. They have cars, houses, wives, children, friends, etc. For them to leave and ‘get in line’ is something most are unwilling to do.
And no, Mark Levin, he’s hasn’t adopted Mario Rubio’s immigration plan. Get off the air, ya big dummmy!
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Levin is an obnoxious egotist. Without saying it directly, he has embraced Rush’s famous statement, which was meant for Obozo, “I hope he (Trump) fails.” You can hear it in his voice. He is just waiting for the opportunity to tell all Trump supporters, “I told you so, I am always right.”
“There is no need for forced deportations, want illegals to leave..SIMPLE..cut off their Govt freebies..adios welfare, adios food stamps..and WATCH THEM LEAVE on their own”
This needs to happen in Trump’s first 100 days.
In your original reply to me you said “Is Trump going for the Guest Worker program for illegals now?” Where in his statement did he say that? That’s why I call you a troll, the classic redirect to create confusion. As I said, buzz off.
It would seem that many for claim to be “conservative” are also actually in it for what they can get out of it.
Kindler gentler establishmentians?
for = who
Such a simple yet brilliant solution. It would definitely work.
Troll? I’ve been on FR longer than you.
Trump said he was looking at not requiring people who had been here a long time to get deported. That implies Guest Worker, which would really suck. Maybe it’s not what he meant but he expressed it very poorly.
Try a course in reading comprehension. It will improve your life.
You’re making my point. When Trump answered the question he did not definitively say what would happen. He has answered that same question definitively in the past many times,so this was a departure from previous.
Any program that allows people to stay is a type of amnesty. I hope that’s not what he is proposing, I just want him to say it clearly, not, “we’re going to see what happens.”
” I said WILL. If he talks this nonsense again.
Which he wont!”
With all due respect, do you think his campaign knows less than layman armchair analysts? Trump was 4-1 underdog 2 weeks ago and now 3-1 underdog. May be even 2.5-1! He needs to keep poaching Hillary voters... Some of us are going to be very happy and rich if Trump wins.
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