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TRUMP JUST PUT THE FEAR IN EVERY CONGRESSMAN WITH 1 EPIC PROMISE TO AMERICA
CONSERVATIVE TRIBUNE BLOG ^ | AUGUST 19, 2016 AT 1:45PM | BY: WILMOT PROVISO 

Posted on 08/19/2016 6:37:58 PM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel

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To: dragnet2
As a rule, presidents have stayed out of the amendatory process because Article V gives them no role.

Presidents who have dabbled in the amendatory process have done so behind the scenes. Lincoln actually engaged in bribery to procure the necessary congressional supermajorities to get the 13th Amendment past Congress and out to the states for ratification.

Trump could work behind the scenes if he so wished.

181 posted on 08/20/2016 10:49:16 AM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain
While it would take a constitutional amendment to accomplish...

Which is why it will never happen.

182 posted on 08/20/2016 11:04:48 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Publius
You completely evaded the facts and questions. Much expected.☺
183 posted on 08/20/2016 11:30:42 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Everywhere term limits have been implemented, the net result was a rapid move leftward.

I am convinced that is why you support them.

Everything you post seems very leftish.


184 posted on 08/20/2016 11:40:54 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: gogeo

Legislating from the executive branch.


185 posted on 08/20/2016 11:41:45 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

These lords and ladies of legislation, use US like surfs to pay off their mega donors. We cannot get more LEFT than we already are under Republican leadership. YOU cannot name ONE thing the Republicans have stopped we the people from having to fund in the abominations name.


186 posted on 08/20/2016 11:44:54 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: editor-surveyor
I understand your position. No need to explain. You fully support people making life long careers in politics/government, jumping from one government position/pension to another government position/pension. And the longer they're all on the tax paid payroll, the more corrupt they become.

Ya better get ready for some big changes slick.

187 posted on 08/20/2016 11:47:26 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Mollypitcher1

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Almost every hip shot has given the MSM an opening to weaken Trump.

The tiniest bit of inaccuracy is a foot in the door for the MSM.
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188 posted on 08/20/2016 11:49:47 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Just mythoughts

Term limits will erode the strength of the few conservatives we have.

That is how it has played out in the state legislatures.

Term limits are “progressive” in their outcome.
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189 posted on 08/20/2016 11:52:59 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: dragnet2
Your first paragraph suggests the use of the bully pulpit. That has its risks.

The president has a role in the legislative process because the Constitution grants him sign-or-veto power over legislation. It's customary for a president to get involved in the rough-and-tumble of the legislative process.

But Article V gives the president no role in the amendatory process. Within the federal government, that role belongs exclusively to Congress. Congress tends to get prickly about its prerogatives. A president who openly gets involved in the amendatory process via the bully pulpit would find himself dealing with an outraged Congress, and both parties would join in the outrage.

Fortunately it would never get that far. If President Trump suggested inserting himself into the amendatory process, the Speaker of the House and the Senate Majority Leader would sit down and counsel him thusly.

Mr. President, Congress won't brook your open interference in the amendatory process. There is a time to lead from in front and a time to lead from behind. You need to lead from behind, and let people on your side, both inside and outside Congress, lead from in front. If anyone asks your opinion on the proposed amendment, just say, "It's a congressional matter, and I'm staying out of it." That kind of diplomacy will get you the supermajorities you need."

If I read your second paragraph correctly, you are suggesting blackmail. That is also doable, but it also involves risks. That is something that has to be done out of sight and not by the president himself, lest it blow up in the president's face and lead to an impeachment situation. Generations later, some enterprising author would go to the Trump Presidential Library and come up with the secret history of how Trump's team got an amendment proposal got past a reluctant Congress.

I'd go with the bully pulpit used judiciously. Newt would be a great advisor on how to play that. The blackmail side of the equation is something I'd save for a last resort.

190 posted on 08/20/2016 11:53:44 AM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: dragnet2

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You don’t understand anything. That has been evident in your every post for quite some time.
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191 posted on 08/20/2016 11:54:32 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Chgogal

No it would require legislation to do lawfully. You want Trump to be Obama?


192 posted on 08/20/2016 11:59:14 AM PDT by Reily
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To: editor-surveyor
Everything you post seems very leftish.

Like #180?

Trumps voice and massive coast to coast influence in the White house would come with a fully operational and equipped television station. No? He would have ready access to nationally televised daily White House briefing that can be broadcasted nationally to the American people. No?

Now ad in Trump having total access to the entire file cabinet, the data, intel, backgrounds, financials, donors, investigations and entire history on the D.C. disciples of deceit.☺

You're a glaring fraud and you're going to lose.

193 posted on 08/20/2016 12:02:04 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: editor-surveyor

People are wising up to the Media propaganda. It is going to bite them in the a— and has already started. The “inaccuracy” of the MSM is outrageous.


194 posted on 08/20/2016 12:06:59 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Publius
If I read your second paragraph correctly, you are suggesting blackmail.

You're confusing blackmail with truth.

Truth sounds like hate to those who hate truth.

195 posted on 08/20/2016 12:07:59 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: editor-surveyor
I cannot name ONE literal ‘conservative’. There is nothing conservative about ‘VAT’ tax Ted Cruz. The individual personal responsible pillar of conservative has been bastardized. When the legislative branch become the ‘blank check’ for the progressives, which they have, then we have become slave to the god of progressives. Gezzzze... we are nearly back to the status quo of Egyptian Pharaohs... out building the bricks for the government gods.
196 posted on 08/20/2016 12:08:54 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: dragnet2

Possibly, or perhaps one of those so-called “superior” types.
Unfortunately their egos outweigh their brains.


197 posted on 08/20/2016 12:09:55 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Just mythoughts

What you’re dealing with here are a couple of insider Cruz holdouts. A real pathetic group at best.


198 posted on 08/20/2016 12:11:16 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
A few days ago, a FReeper posted this thread, which -- I will admit -- shook me up badly.

If the material in this thread is true, the truth may set us free, but it will destroy us in the process.

199 posted on 08/20/2016 12:13:03 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: dragnet2
What you’re dealing with here are a couple of insider Cruz holdouts. A real pathetic group at best.

I learned as a child, to recognize when I was wrong.... I have spent my life recognizing my 'wrong', beliefs... It is called taking personal individual responsibility... One of the standards of a 'pure' conservative. I am repulsed by these that have bastardized the idea of 'conservatism'... Bunch of spineless mindless liberals. VAT tax Cruz is a bastard.

200 posted on 08/20/2016 12:14:50 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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