[sukhoi-30mki]

[knarf]

Jeff Head tried to alert us to China's ship building frenzy 10 or so years ago ...

And we haggle about what bathroom to use.

We could use some Godly fire and brimstone right about now.

[MSF BU]

I’m wondering how the combat power of the Red Fleet compares against that of Japan?

[Mr. Douglas]

Kinda reminds me of the rise of the Luftwaffe in the 1930’s.

[RayChuang88]

Despite what some people claim, the Chinese are likely putting nuclear warheads on the anti-carrier missiles--including those from this new destroyer and the modified DF-21 missile designed specifically for attacking carriers. That's why during the Cold War, the Russians fitted a powerful 350 KT nuclear warhead to their P-5 Pyatyorka (NATO designation SS-N-3 Shaddock) long-range anti-shipping missiles to guarantee a "kill" against US carriers even if the "miss" was as much as half a mile.

[Mr. Douglas]

This is crazy! Where the heck did China get the money to do this?

;-)

[Yo-Yo]

Is there a bilge pump in every compartment?

[Candor7]

China’s Fleet of ‘Carrier Killer’ Destroyers Is Growing>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

You mean rich cannon fodder for US nuclear subs?

Bring it.

[Lou L]

Any idea of how well the Chinese sailors are trained? Are the enlisted allowed to carry out tasks relatively unsupervised, or are they just around to carry out directions from officers?

The Russian and Soviet navy was officer-centric. This often reduces their effectiveness because even simple tasks cannot be accomplished without an officer's oversight. In the heat of battle, this can be a significant disadvantage.

[pb929]

Just curious, but what is to prevent the US from just sending in stealth aircraft to sink these on the first day of a battle? Assuming we can find them of course.

[TalonDJ]

“The Type 052D destroyer is often referred to as a “carrier killer” because it is designed to defend against aircraft carriers,”

Defending against one ain’t the same as killing one.