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An important win for our republic and constitutional law!

Will do further research to determine where sharia law has been upheld and rejected in US courts.

1 posted on 08/10/2016 7:18:08 PM PDT by MarchonDC09122009
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Screw that sharia crap!!


2 posted on 08/10/2016 7:19:13 PM PDT by WENDLE (Hillary has bad brain damage!)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

Has the Congress just quit ??? I guess so. Washington, DC is TOTALLY out of control. Keep your powder dry.


3 posted on 08/10/2016 7:20:05 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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Vultures!..........


4 posted on 08/10/2016 7:21:04 PM PDT by Red Badger (Make America AMERICA again!.........................)
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The opinion, which was marked “unpublished” and not to be used for citation

Cowards

5 posted on 08/10/2016 7:21:30 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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Although the decision is unpublished and not binding precedent, it can certainly be used as a “persuasive” decision in future cases where attempts to mandate Sharia “law” are used.


6 posted on 08/10/2016 7:22:33 PM PDT by Sasparilla (Hillary for Prison 2016)
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I don’t understand how sharia law is allowed in England.


7 posted on 08/10/2016 7:22:55 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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Clintoon will be shorting out over this one. She likes Shariah.


8 posted on 08/10/2016 7:23:46 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Let's Make Our Government and Founding Documents Great Again!)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

For now


9 posted on 08/10/2016 7:24:19 PM PDT by DAC21
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A bit surprising, in that this comes from Minnesota - not exactly a bastion of conservative thought.


15 posted on 08/10/2016 7:45:19 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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**U.S. court rejects Muslim’s demand to use Shariah **

Good. If they live in the U. S. then they are subject to U. S. law, period!


16 posted on 08/10/2016 7:48:40 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

They rejected it....this time.

There will come a day when US Courts authorize the use of Shariah though.

Thanks for voting for it by the way. LOL! :)


18 posted on 08/10/2016 7:54:47 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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Thank you!


21 posted on 08/10/2016 8:04:50 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: MarchonDC09122009; Elderberry; BuckeyeTexan; Old Sarge; aragorn; AZ .44 MAG; Art in Idaho; ...

PING!!!

Article and comments

Thanks, MarchonDC09122009


23 posted on 08/10/2016 8:09:35 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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“The opinion, which was marked “unpublished” and not to be used for citation,”

Any legal types care to comment on why this might be? It seems like an important precedent.


27 posted on 08/10/2016 8:21:10 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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It was the cab driver’s brother who argued in court that Islamic law should apply, so that the widow of Nadir Ibrahim Ombabi would only get 25 percent of the wrongful death settlement, 16.7 percent should go to his mother’s estate and the rest to Ombabi’s siblings, “with the males to receive ‘twice the share of the female.'”

I hope this makes her consider which side has her best interests at heart. I won't hold my breathe on it, but I can hope.
32 posted on 08/10/2016 8:40:18 PM PDT by Ellendra (Those who kill without reason cannot be reasoned with.)
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Never forget .. Hillary is more than willing to allow Sharia to be used by the Muslims.

Which of course means .. that Hillary is willing to subvert her own govt, in order to appease people who are not even Citizens of the USA.

I wish more women would realize that Hillary does not support you for one minute .. not if she can control the Muslims by letting them have Sharia (she thinks she can control them). Hillary is a scary person.


36 posted on 08/10/2016 9:17:32 PM PDT by CyberAnt ("Peace Through Strength")
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trivia: Gold River Calif being the northern portion of former Rancho Cordova, home to the former Mather AFB, Sacramento


37 posted on 08/10/2016 9:24:19 PM PDT by blueplum ((March 11, 2016 - the day the First Amendment died?))
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Sharia law specifics:

Sharia: The Truth about Islamic Law

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/articles/sharia.aspx

The Religion of Peace
Sharia
(Islamic Law)
Sharia is Islamic Law.  It is the religious legal system that governs the political, social and moral duties of faithful Muslims.  It is what is meant by “God’s Law.”

The Sharia was derived from the Sunnah - the way of life of Muhammad as recorded in the Hadith (traditions).  It pulls various Quran verses and historical narrations into an organized body of rules.

Although Muslims as individuals often decide which parts of Sharia to follow or ignore, the Quran (33:21) says that it is not fitting for a believer to choose for themselves (i.e., disregard) any matter already decided by Allah.

Likewise, a government that limits God’s Law in any way is an enemy of Allah and must be fought.  The establishment of Sharia is the fundamental objective of every Islamic terror group.  Once an Islamic state is in place, the Quran (9:29) and Sharia (o9.8) make it mandatory for Muslims to fight those Jews and Christians who will not convert or accept inferior status.

This reality is left out by proponents of Sharia in the West, who hide behind the cloak of religion and expose only the more benign personal rules (such as those dealing with prayer and hygiene).  This is to make it appear as if detractors are religious bigots whose real problem is intolerance for a different set of beliefs about God and worship.

In fact, Sharia is explicitly opposed to religious freedom, freedom of conscience and the free exchange of ideas.  It is violent, openly bigoted toward non-Muslims, discriminatory, and unflinchingly sexist.  Large sections deal with the practice of slavery.  None of this changes by affixing a “phobia” label or otherwise insulting detractors.

The following sections highlight what Sharia actually says about important issues.  References are to the classic manual, Reliance of the Traveller, considered one of the soundest translations of Islamic law.  The full version in PDF form can be found here.

(Literal text from Reliance is in italics).
Freedom of Conscience and the Free Exchange of Ideas
(o8.1) - When a person who has reached puberty and is sane voluntarily apostatizes from Islam, he deserves to be killed.

(o8.4) - There is no indemnity for killing an apostate (since it is killing someone who deserves to die).

Acts that define “leaving Islam” and being subject to execution are listed in o8.7.  They include:

    -2- to intend to commit unbelief, even if in the future

    -3- to deny the existence of Allah... or any of his attributes

    -6- to be sarcastic about Allah’s name, his command, his interdiction... or his threat

    -7- to deny any verse of the Quran

    -8- to mockingly say, “I don’t know what faith is”

    -17- to believe that things in themselves or by their own nature have any causal influence independent of the will of Allah

Holy War (Jihad)
(o9.0) - Jihad means to war against non-Muslims, and is etymologically derived from the word mujahada signifying warfare to establish the religion...

The scriptural basis for jihad... is such Koranic verses as:

    -1- “Fighting is prescribed for you’’ (Koran 2: 216);
    -2- “Slay them wherever you find them’’ (Koran 4: 89);
    -3- “Fight the idolators utterly’’ (Koran 9: 36);

and such hadiths as the one related by Bukhari and Muslim that the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said:

    “I have been commanded to fight people until they testify that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and perform the prayer, and pay zakat. If they say it, they have saved their blood and possessions from me, except for the rights of Islam over them. And their final reckoning is with Allah’’;

(o9.1) - Jihad [against non-Muslims in their own countries ] is a communal obligation... “He who provides the equipment for a soldier in Jihad has himself performed Jihad”

(o9.7) - The caliph makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians until they become Muslim or pay the non-Muslim poll tax in accordance with the word of Allah Most High:

    “Fight those who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day and who forbid not what Allah and His messenger have forbidden-who do not practice the religion of truth, being of those who have been given the Book-until they pay the poll tax out of hand and are humbled” (Quran 9.29))

(o9.9) - The caliph fights all other people until they become Muslim

Homosexuality
(p17.3) - The Prophet (Allah Bless him and give him peace) said: “Kill the one who sodomizes and the one who lets it be done to him.”

Women
m3.4 - 3.7 say that a woman may not “conduct her own marriage”, meaning that she is not free to marry by choice.  A male guardian is required to validate the marriage agreement.

m3.8 says that a woman is not free to choose her guardian.  It is assigned by family relation.  Once she is married, she becomes the charge of her husband’s guardianship.

A Muslim woman may not marry a non-Muslim man (Quran 2:221).  An untranslated portion of the Sharia even forbids an Arab woman from marrying a non-Arab man (source).

(m13.4) - A woman has no right to custody of her children from a previous marriage when she remarries.

(m5.1) - It is obligatory for a woman to let her husband have sex with her immediately when he asks her... and she can physically endure it.

(m10.11-2) - It is not lawful for a wife to leave the house except by the permission of her husband.

(m10.11) - When a husband notices signs of rebelliousness in his wife, he warns her in words. If she commits rebelliousness, he keeps from sleeping with her without words, and may hit her, but not in a way that injures her, meaning he may not break bones, wound her, or cause blood to flow.

(o4.9) - The indemnity for the death or injury of a woman is one-half the indemnity paid for a man.

(L10.3) - Divide the universal share so the male receives the portion of two females (Rule of inheritance based on the Quran 4:11)

(m2.3) - It is unlawful for women to leave the house with faces unveiled

Non-Muslims
(Bigotry toward those outside the Islamic faith)
(o4.9) - The indemnity paid for a Jew or Christian is one-third of the indemnity paid for a Muslim. The indemnity paid of a Zoroastrian is one-fifteenth of that a Muslim.

(h8.24) - It is not permissible to give zakat to a non-Muslim.

(e2.3) - It is offensive to use the vessels [dishes] of non-Muslims or wear their clothes.

e8.3 says that a non-Muslim may not touch the Quran.

f21.2 says that non-Muslims are not allowed to ‘mix’ with Muslims at certain events.

g1.2 says that it is permissible for a Muslim to visit a non-Muslim who is ill, but not recommended.  (Same with visiting the grave of a non-Muslim relative - g5.8)

(L5.2) - a non-Muslim may not inherit from a Muslim. (or vice versa)

o1.2 states that there is no penalty for a Muslim who kills a non-Muslim

o11.0-11 says that non-Muslim subjects of an Islamic state may live free from harm if they

    - pay a special ‘poll’ tax (the jizya)

    - comply with certain Islamic rules, specifically the penalty for adultery (stoning) and theft (amputation)

    - distinguish themselves from Muslims by dressing differently

    - keep to the side of the side of the street when Muslims pass

    - accept a lesser form of greeting

    - agree not to build new churches or build houses higher than those of Muslims

The agreement is broken (meaning that the non-Muslim may be lynched) if he breaks the rules, fails to pay the poll tax, “leads a Muslim away from Islam”, “mentions something impermissible” about Islam, or has sex with a non-Muslim woman.

(o22.13) - The judge treats two litigants impartially, seating both in places of equal honor, attending to each, and so forth, unless one is a non-Muslim, in which case he gives the Muslim a better seat

Sex and Honor Killing
(o1.2) - The following are not subject to retaliation: ... -4- a father or mother (or their fathers or mothers) for killing their offspring or offspring’s offspring

o12.2 - The penalty for adultery is stoning.  The penalty for unmarried sex (fornication) is 100 lashes.
Slavery
A large section of the Sharia is devoted to codifying the practice of slavery (k32.0).  The Reliance of the Traveller omits these rules from the English language translation, perhaps to obscure the comfortable relationship between Islam and slavery.  However, parts from other sections address both the capture of slaves and the sanctioning of forced conversion under obvious duress.

(o9.13) - When a child or a woman is taken captive, they become slaves by the fact of capture, and the woman’s previous marriage is immediately annulled.

(o9.14) - When an adult male is taken captive, the caliph considers the interests (O: of Islam and the Muslims) and decides between the prisoner’s death, slavery, release without paying anything, or ransoming himself in exchange for money or for a Muslim captive held by the enemy. If the prisoner becomes a Muslim (O: before the caliph chooses) then he may not be killed, and one of the other three alternatives is chosen.

(o9.12) Whoever enters Islam before being captured may not be killed or his property confiscated, or his young children taken captive.

o4.9 is one of several rules that establish slaves as property, to be traded as a form of restitution.

o20.2 makes it clear that a slave freed as a method of expiation must be a “sound Muslim.”

Theft
(o14.1) - A person’s right hand is amputated, whether he is a Muslim, non-Muslim subject of the Islamic state

Art and Music
r40.1 says that musical instruments are condemned.

(r40.3) - One should know that singing or listening to singing is offensive (with the exception of songs that encourage piety).

(p44.1) - Every maker of pictures will go to the fire, where a being will be set upon him for each picture he made, to torment him in hell

(w50.2) - Pictures imitate the creative act of Allah (when they are of animate beings).

(o17.9) - It is unlawful to decorate walls with pictures (generally interpreted as pictures of animate beings).

Additional Notes
Sharia is extremely specific in some places (such as instructions on washing one’s anus).  However, it does not often address the many routines and nuances of modern life.  Bodies of Islamic scholars (fiqh) thus extend the law via fatwas, in which the permissiblity of a matter is formally determined by applying the spirit of existing law.


38 posted on 08/10/2016 9:29:46 PM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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please ping me. I suspect we have the beginnings of it downstate here.

Thanks for this good news!

44 posted on 08/10/2016 11:23:28 PM PDT by MarMema (dog lives matter)
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People ought to be free to enter into whatever voluntary contracts they wish (something similar to this may be seen with Jewish religious law) but certainly absent the beneficiary woman’s choice to do that and to forego what she would otherwise get, the law of the land should prevail.


45 posted on 08/11/2016 12:52:07 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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