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1 posted on 08/05/2016 6:19:53 PM PDT by reaganaut1
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Mmmmmm.... taxpayers?


2 posted on 08/05/2016 6:22:52 PM PDT by From The Deer Stand
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It's not a responsibility of the government to cover underfunded retirement funds. The union members were paid a premium wage plus benefits in the form of pension fund contributions. It's the responsibility of the union and its members. Nobody outside that union business has any obligation to pony up money to make it solvent.
4 posted on 08/05/2016 6:26:34 PM PDT by Myrddin
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Soon, this will be everyone's problem.

Pension funds are insolvent. 401Ks and IRAs are joined at the hip to the stock market.

The incredibly overvalued markets today are based on lies and manipulation.

Error! 401K File Not Found. If This Problem Persists, Contact the Federal Reserve.

7 posted on 08/05/2016 6:31:29 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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The PBGC. But who’ll bail out the PBGC?


8 posted on 08/05/2016 6:32:48 PM PDT by Brilliant
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Three words: RETIREMENT FAIRNESS ACT.


11 posted on 08/05/2016 6:35:29 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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This is where some creative political jujitsu can set Democratic constituencies against each other. For example, provide for a bailout that requires any participating state to sell off all publicly owned utility systems and put a large share of the proceeds into public pension fund obligations. Then raid the over-stuffed endowments of the Ivy League for additional funds. Be blunt that the goal is wealth redistribution from the Ivy League to save the pensions of ordinary people. Even if Bernie Sanders resisted, his supporters would find such proposals to be political catnip. Act surprised that any Ivy League university might oppose such measures.


12 posted on 08/05/2016 6:36:44 PM PDT by Rockingham
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Need look no further than Chicago and Rahmbo’s solution to the crisis of $3.45 being paid out in pension benefits for every $1.00 coming in. Onerous taxes. 30% property tax increase wasn’t even close to cutting it. Now, Rahmbo is proposing a huge increase (over 4 years) in water rates. WATER! When a government can tax a majority of people out of the basic essentials of life (food, water, shelter) to benefit a minority of people (civil service workers - teachers, cops, fire, and all manner of government wogs) revolution/civil war cannot be far behind. Watch Chicago carefully. As it goes, so goes the nation. And, to those privileged pensioners living fat off the struggle and sweat of everyone else, I say, “Be afraid. Be very, very afraid.”


20 posted on 08/05/2016 7:00:17 PM PDT by torqemada (If you can't accept my values, you can't have my money.)
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NO BAILOUTS FOR ANY UNION THAT HAS GIVEN
POLITICAL CONTRIBUTIONS!!!

Period.

Let the members fire the goons!


21 posted on 08/05/2016 7:00:58 PM PDT by Noob1999
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Rich Union Bosses?


22 posted on 08/05/2016 7:09:39 PM PDT by Paladin2 (auto spelchk? BWAhaha2haaa.....I aint't likely fixin' nuttin'. Blame it on the Bossa Nova...)
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Yup, thinking you've got a good smooth ride until it suddenly drops away and you're in the grinder.


23 posted on 08/05/2016 7:28:59 PM PDT by fruser1
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I guess they gave too much money to Democrat politicians.


24 posted on 08/05/2016 7:30:51 PM PDT by Chgogal (A woman who votes for Hillary is voting with her vagina and not her brain.)
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Got a mirror?


26 posted on 08/05/2016 7:32:59 PM PDT by dfwgator
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This makes me smile——

I had the misfortune to have to join the Teamster’s union when I was working in a job in about 1966.
I can clearly remember how angry I was when out monthly Union Dues were raised by $1 each month to help pay for Hoffa’s attorneys——those scumbags who were being paid to defend him for STEALING the PENSION FUND MONIES in the first place.

It felt like paying for my husband’s divorce lawyer!!!


29 posted on 08/05/2016 8:12:59 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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The Tenth Amendment most certainly applies here!

Does the Constitution SPECIFICALLY give the government the power to control pensions, or bail them out? If so, then please cite the exact Article and Clause where that power is expressed.

(No, not if any “law” passed by Congress allows it ... they’ve passed hundreds if not thousands of laws that violate Constitutional limits.)

Under the Tenth Amendment, if the Constitution DOES NOT give that power to the feds, then that power belongs to the states or to the people. Period. Full stop.


30 posted on 08/05/2016 8:44:05 PM PDT by DNME (The only solution to a BAD GUY with a gun is a GOOD GUY with a gun.)
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Next recession, another “Stimulus” will fill up their coffers.


32 posted on 08/05/2016 10:08:48 PM PDT by PGR88
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Bernie Sanders isn’t going to be the next president, but one of the bills he has sponsored, the Keep Our Pension Promises Act (KOPPA)could become law during the next president’s term.

"Our" pension promises?

I think the wife and I will look up a lawyer next week and sign contracts guaranteeing each other $100,000 a year in retirement. (I'm being modest here.) We'll send Bernie the bill.

34 posted on 08/05/2016 11:26:56 PM PDT by sphinx
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No bailouts for unfounded Union perks! No more taxpayer bailouts!


38 posted on 08/06/2016 5:35:21 AM PDT by uncitizen (Americanism NOT Globalism! - Trump)
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I have posted this before. Nothing will change until the money runs out.

What caused the money to run out for USSR?


39 posted on 08/06/2016 5:38:41 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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