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So Conservatives, What Have We Learned From This Trump Thing?
Townhall.com ^ | August 1, 2016 | Kurt Schlichter

Posted on 08/01/2016 4:39:18 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: central_va

It will never blow over.

No matter what happens in November, things are not going back to the way they were.

If they try to force it back then the Party will melt away and a new Conservative party will take its place.


101 posted on 08/01/2016 8:07:19 AM PDT by crusher2013
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To: crusher2013

The new party should be called the Patriot Party.


102 posted on 08/01/2016 8:09:48 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Kaslin
While it may be starting to register on the ruling class that we have a genuine revolt going on here, I don't think the nature of that revolt is clear to them despite exhaustive efforts to make it clear on the part of the folks with the pitchforks and the torches. Part of the problem is the apparently unquestioned assumption that "we set the terms, we mold the discussion," which is part of what the revolt is reacting to.

Bernie Sanders should not have happened. He was (and more obviously so in retrospect) a foil placed to illuminate the "inevitable" candidate and when his campaign took off he was ill-equipped to deal with it and the party unwilling to help him. He did not come out of nowhere but his fans did.

Trump at least was more explicable at the outset from the ruling class perspective: a WWE-esque reality television star that would be a momentary passion of the unwashed more accustomed to Honey Boo Boo than to the intricacies of the Beltway Sport of Kings. Let the little people rave, the pros would soon be along to take the dangerous toys out of the kiddies' hands.

Yeb!'s campaign taking a nosedive into a rickety tumbrel full of poo should have been a warning. He too was "inevitable", a keeper of arcane insider spells necessary to keep this immense joke of a government tottering along. There are a lot of three thousand dollar suits and cushy slush funds and golden parachutes riding on the continuing willingness of the sheep to be fleeced for their betters. And it is here that the commentariat failed most signally: declaring that revolt was not an option is not the same as making it so.

Hence their current confusion. Schlichter gets it here, but nobody's listening. The ruling class packages a candidate A as a "conservative" who is not, a candidate B who is "liberal" but just as much a comfortable insider, frames the discussion, sets the terms, performs the customary media incantations and the magic just isn't happening. It's obviously somebody else's fault.

103 posted on 08/01/2016 8:53:28 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Kaslin

That the Republican Party sucked so much that it took frickin’ Donald Trump to make it viable again.


104 posted on 08/01/2016 8:56:12 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: central_va

“Trump is also for trade protectionism which was the cornerstone of the Republican Party platform up to the time of the second WW.”


I learned all about free trade and its benefits in school. Even then, however, I understood that if someone wanted to cheat, then it wasn’t “free” anything, except a free ride for the cheater. It would be a very big net negative for the sucker who allowed himself to be cheated.

Trump understands these simple facts of life, and everyone else who condemns him for not being for free trade is just being ignorant (and, I believe, willfully so - they’re not that stupid, they just think that everyone else IS).


105 posted on 08/01/2016 9:30:00 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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I learned all about free trade and its benefits in school.

Odd no in school taught any of the vast down of free trade like de industrialization.

106 posted on 08/01/2016 11:13:49 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Kaslin

If all other admonitions fail, remember- ABC!

Anyone But Clinton!


107 posted on 08/01/2016 12:48:00 PM PDT by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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To: central_va

“Odd no in school taught any of the vast down of free trade like de industrialization”


Yeah, I noticed that, too. The Profs are great on theory, not so much on practice (except the ones bright enough to do consulting, where actually knowing something of use pays).


108 posted on 08/01/2016 2:05:34 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Kaslin

Nothing. I don’t get it.


109 posted on 08/01/2016 2:08:36 PM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: Fresh Wind
Was Romney a traditional conservative?
Was McCain a traditional conservative?
Was Bush II a traditional conservative?
Was Bush I a traditional conservative?

You tell us. Maybe "traditional Republican candidate acceptable to conservatives" is a better way of putting it than "traditional conservative."

If you're saying they weren't all traditional Republican candidates or acceptable to conservatives, you could be right.

If you're saying that all of them weren't traditional Republican candidates acceptable to Republicans, that could be going too far.

110 posted on 08/01/2016 2:24:04 PM PDT by x
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To: Kaslin

Good article.


111 posted on 08/01/2016 2:28:13 PM PDT by x
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To: miss marmelstein

Your source please? Because this is what he wrote in 2008:

McCain for President
By Charles Krauthammer
Friday, October 24, 2008

Contrarian that I am, I’m voting for John McCain.

From http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/23/AR2008102302867.html


112 posted on 08/01/2016 8:08:21 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Baldwin77

Yep


113 posted on 08/01/2016 8:34:22 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Kaslin

None of my family want to vote for him and we are conservative.One part of the family will vote against him because they think he will blow us up.


114 posted on 08/01/2016 8:43:42 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: x

My point is that NONE of them are “traditional conservatives”. I take issue with the author’s suggestion that the recent run of Republican candidates come anywhere close to that standard.

Your description “traditional Republican candidate acceptable to conservatives” is almost there. I would say “marginally acceptable” instead. That would perfectly describe those candidates.

Implied in my comment is the obvious lack of electoral success experienced by the people I mentioned (Bush II barely made it in, and Bush I couldn’t make it on his own). I forgot to include Dole, he belongs there as well.

In this day and age, “traditional Republicans marginally acceptable to conservatives” aren’t likely to ever become president.

I had high hopes that Cruz was going to be the traditional conservative who is also electable, but he succeeded only in driving people away from him, in stark contrast to the Reagan phenomenon.

Trump is neither a traditional Republican nor is he a traditional conservative.

But he has other things going for him that put him far ahead of his Republican rivals, and hopefully will allow him to forever erase the Clinton/Obama stain on our country.


115 posted on 08/02/2016 4:03:09 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hey now baby, get into my big black car, I just want to show you what my politics are.)
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To: skr

What else is he going to say publicly? He wanted to keep his Fox job. Sarah Palin was just too icky for him to support. Jerk.


116 posted on 08/02/2016 4:45:48 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: miss marmelstein

I provided a source about Krauthammer, in his own words, voting for McCain in 2008. Since you didn’t provide a source, I can only surmise you don’t have one.

So you think his dislike of Palin (who was only going to be a mere vice president) was enough for him to vote for a man he despised to become president with all the power that entails and then to lie about it? That doesn’t even make sense.


117 posted on 08/04/2016 2:23:58 AM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: txrefugee

Well said. If Trump could hammer at the horrible Hillary/Obama economy, and leave these side issues alone, I believe he could - will win!


118 posted on 08/04/2016 2:28:55 AM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: skr

Yes, just as I believe he’ll either go for Hillary or probably sit home. I don’t like him, I don’t trust him, and By Golly, I’m standing by my opinion!


119 posted on 08/04/2016 4:30:30 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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