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Trump Poll Bounce Rattles Experts
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | July 25, 2016 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 07/25/2016 3:17:46 PM PDT by Kaslin

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RUSH: Trump got a convention bounce and it's a big one, a six-point convention bounce. Now, if you look at Real Clear Politics average of polls, you don't see six points, because those polls -- the average of those polls -- consist of a number of days before the convention added to the days of and after the convention. But if you take out the days leading up to the convention -- just look at the polling data that comes from the convention and after it -- it's a huge, six-point convention bump. Now, you might say, "Well, that's no big deal. That's no big deal, Rush! Every candidate gets a convention bounce." That's the thing: That hasn't been the case in a long time. Let's go to none other than CNN for the details.

"Donald Trump comes out of his convention ahead of Hillary Clinton in the race for the White House, topping her 44% to 39% in a four-way matchup including Gary Johnson (9%) and Jill Stein (3%) and by three points in a two-way head-to-head, 48% to 45%. ...

"There hasn't been a significant post-convention bounce in CNN's polling since 2000. That year Al Gore and George W. Bush both boosted their numbers by an identical 8 points post-convention before ultimately battling all the way to" the Florida recount, the aftermath, and Supreme Court decision. There haven't been convention bounces.

Obama didn't get one in 2008. Bush didn't get one in 2004. Nobody got one in 2004, 2008, or 2012. So this is the first convention bounce in the CNN poll -- Trump got it -- since 2000. That's CNN, and this... Believe me. Don't doubt me on this. Despite the smiling and attempts at everything's okay and all is normal that you're seeing from Democrats this week, they're worried. They are panicked. Because Trump was supposed to be nowhere near Hillary. Trump was not supposed to be close, much less leading.

Because in the conventional world of politics, Trump was supposed to have imploded or have been exposed as a fraud and a know-nothing long ago. I mean, you go back three months, six months. The Democrat Party, the thing they were hoping for was Trump to win the nomination. I mean, they thought that would be a slam dunk, because the guy doesn't know what he's doing. They think he's crazy. They think his support is thin and can be persuaded to abandon him. They don't know what they're dealing with.

But they're getting an idea now that this is not the way it was supposed to be.

Last week, ladies and gentlemen, Nate Silver -- the vaunted Nate Silver, formerly of the New York Times and now of his own website, FiveThirtyEight.com... This is a guy that the Democrats relied on for comfort. He was their guru during the 2012 presidential campaign. Nate Silver then was analyzing polls. That's what he does. He analyzes polls; then makes percentage predictions based on his unique analysis. "Only Nate Silver does what he does!" So goes the reputation.

Only Nate Silver has secret ways of analyzing results and making in-depth predictions based on whoever's likely to win, not by margin although other polling units do. And last week, Nate Silver was telling all of Democrats (summarized), "Don't sweat it! Right now, we got Trump at maybe 10 to 15% chance of winning the White House." Well, Business Insider: "Nate Silver: Donald Trump Would Most Likely Win the Election if it Were Held Today." Remember, Democrats believe this guy. This guy is an oracle.

"If the election were held [today]," and, of course, it isn't, but if it were, "Donald Trump would likely win. That's what renowned statistician Nate Silver projected [today] for his data journalism outlet FiveThirtyEight. In his 'Now-cast' election model for who would win if ballots were cast [today], Silver gave the Republican nominee a 57.5% chance of winning the presidency," up from 10 or 15%. Whatever it was, it was miniscule just a week ago.

"Presumptive Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton had a 42.5% chance of securing the nation's highest office if voters were to take to the polls [today]. ... However, in Silver's polls-only forecast and in his polls-plus forecast..." See, this is why this is special. Nobody else has a "polls-only" or "polls-plus," but Nate Silver does! In his "polls-only forecast and in his polls-plus forecast, Clinton was still favored to come out on top.

"In the polls-only model, Clinton had a 53.7% chance of winning, while in the polls-plus model, Silver gave Clinton a 58.2% chance of winning in November. But those numbers are a drastic drop-off from where they recently were -- hovering around 80%." Nate Silver tweeted, "Don't think people are really grasping how plausible it is that Trump could become president. It's a close election right now." He's trying to warn 'em. He's trying to warn the Democrats that things are much worse.

And then there was a USC survey that was released yesterday, an election forecast, and this one is a track of this outfit's "best estimate over time of how Americans plan to vote in November." And the upshot is that... Well, Trump is way ahead in this. Well, not way ahead, but he's got about, say, an eight-point lead with a 95% confidence level in this poll. It's just a graph. It's a graph poll since July 10th, since July 23rd. The point is... It's a relatively new poll.

"The 2016 USC Dornsife / LA Times Presidential Election Poll represents a pioneering approach to tracking changes in Americans' opinions throughout a campaign for the White House. Around 3000 respondents ... are asked questions on a regular basis on what they care about most," and in this race it's Trump. So, again, I'm only mentioning this ladies and gentlemen, because I have been called a "data denier." I've been blamed by others on our side of the aisle for being in denial of data -- in other words, by not believing polls.

This is something that traces back to the Romney-Obama campaign of 2012. "You've gotta believe what the data says! You can't be a data denier. That's living in a fantasyland!" So I'm just telling what the data is. In that CNN poll, by the way, it's always the case, particularly with traditional polls. You go to the internals, it's bad for Hillary. The end result even now has Trump way up. But get this. Hillary Clinton: "Do you consider her honest and trustworthy?" Yes, 30%. No, 68%. That's CNN and just some of the internals, which do not look good for Hillary.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016polls; 2016rncconvention; rush; rushtranscript; trump; trumpbump
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To: El Cid
Satan could run as a Democrat in this Country

She already is.

21 posted on 07/25/2016 4:05:26 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Kaslin

I don’t believe that the polls accurately reflect the insane voter intensity that exists in the Trump movement. His supporters have waited for 3, 4 and 5 hours in the bitter cold, excess heat and dripping wet humidity to see him live at rallies throughout the Nation. His crowds have been record breaking as was his primary vote total. The media has revealed their sick bias for people that hate our Country, hate Christians like Tim Tebow and hate all republicans unless they are RINOS like Lindsey Graham. The media has effectively influenced many independents to vote Trump. Far from destroying the Trump campaign, the media has hurt themselves and their fellow liberals.


22 posted on 07/25/2016 4:12:34 PM PDT by Kahuna
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

I concur. The only thing dim’s care about is destroying America and beating us. It gives them joy and pleasure.


23 posted on 07/25/2016 4:43:23 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789)
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To: Does so

Re:
Terror attacks are happening all the time now, I don’t want these people here!”
But...”That’s not who we are...”.

/s

That’s what Paul Ryan said.
Cantorize him!


24 posted on 07/25/2016 4:47:50 PM PDT by Toughluck_freeper
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To: Kaslin
Trump's POWERFUL acceptance speech is what caused the bounce.

That "bounce" is not going away and will GROW in the coming weeks.

25 posted on 07/25/2016 4:57:24 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

“It just boggles the mind the support this woman gets, I really think her supporters are zombies, they just do not care about the candidate only if their stinking party wins”

Alexander Solzhenitsin said, “Evil people always support each other; that is their main strength.”

Can evil people really be expected to support anyone else?


26 posted on 07/25/2016 4:58:07 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: digger48
LOL!
I was going to add that Satan's bride was running, but I figured that I'd drop not include that comment...
27 posted on 07/25/2016 5:01:49 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: Hostage

It was Business Insider that called him “renowned,” not Limbaugh.


28 posted on 07/25/2016 5:06:56 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Hostage

Sarcasm impaired? I really believe Rush was mocking him.


29 posted on 07/25/2016 5:12:38 PM PDT by prof.h.mandingo
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To: Hostage
Apologize for your silly insult of a post.

Work on your reading comprehension skills.

30 posted on 07/25/2016 5:30:33 PM PDT by Atomic Vomit (http://www.cafepress.com/aroostookbeauty/358829)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
I read your comment and the last sentence made me think of this former high school classmate and her twin sister, who have been friends for 50 years. But no longer. Both are in love with Cruz and hate Trump like woman supporters scorned. They tag-team their ranting, railing rampage on Facebook and social media, including sending nasty emails calling me a "zombie" for mindlessly voting for Trump. They've been on this tirade to excoriate Trump and his supporters since Cruz dropped out. Scorched earth approach.

I realized if I just changed a noun and pronoun, your comment read EXACTLY what she and her sister have been saying about Trump and his supporters, including me:

"....It just boggles the mind the support this woman gets, I really think herhis supporters are zombies, they just do not care about the candidate only if their stinking party wins.

Give Trump time. He's a political neophyte and my thinking is the opposite of yours. I'm glad he's even or leading at this point at all. He just introduced himself to the country on Thursday night and most people aren't even paying attention to presidential politics yet. After the conventions and Labor Day, the campaigning will start in earnest. I believe Trump will slice and dice Hillary with a thousand Twitter cuts. And she will not be unbloodied from her own doings, as well. But I think he win this by a considerable margin if he can change some numbers in historic blue and swing states.

All things come to those who wait. Be patient The polls will favor Trump from here on out, I believe, unless he actually does shoot someone on 5th Avenue in New York City, in broad daylight. :-)

31 posted on 07/25/2016 5:48:02 PM PDT by HotHunt
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
<>What else does this woman have to do to eff up her campaign? Behead kittens on live TV?

It would have to be puppies. Kittens grow up to be cats, which leaves too much room for excusing it.

32 posted on 07/25/2016 6:29:37 PM PDT by Gil4 (And the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, ax and saw)
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To: Atomic Vomit; dsc; prof.h.mandingo

Rush, his Gulfstream and his brother are on the sh*t list of many fine conservatives since they decided to push Cruz over Trump.

You and your nobody know-nothings can join him on the list.


33 posted on 07/25/2016 7:17:05 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: HotHunt
The polls will favor Trump from here on out, I believe, unless he actually does shoot someone on 5th Avenue in New York City, in broad daylight. :-)

Hang on for a tick.

It depends on who.

34 posted on 07/25/2016 7:19:23 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Islamics kill people because they are sick of being called violent! They are tired of Islamophobia!)
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To: Kaslin

I bet it is rattling Rush, Levin and the other sell outs as well.


35 posted on 07/25/2016 7:43:23 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: digger48

True.


36 posted on 07/25/2016 7:43:59 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: mad puppy

Blacks will vote for whoever is a Democrat....and “V” will always vote for another “V” just to spite their husbands, or to stick with the LESBIANS!


37 posted on 07/26/2016 2:35:09 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Lazamataz

Okay, I’ll bite. “Who” what?


38 posted on 07/26/2016 5:33:28 AM PDT by HotHunt
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To: HotHunt

Wait, what? When who “what” what, what? Where?


39 posted on 07/26/2016 5:40:03 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Muslims kill people because they're sick of being called violent! They're violent over Islamophobia!)
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To: Lazamataz

Smart ass. :-)


40 posted on 07/26/2016 5:43:22 AM PDT by HotHunt
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