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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

” Go for it. Make yourself out to look stupid if you so desire. “

Boy, that’s a real convincing argument for your position. Does that work with whatever crowd you like to hang with and discuss, oh epistemology and the like? Somehow I get the impression that you don’t even know what that is.

What I do know is what Jaki’s education and field of expertise was- so let’s hear yours. Do you have a doctorate in philosophy? A PhD in physics? Do you have books published on the theory of knowledge and the history of science? There is someone on this thread making himself look stupid, it just doesn’t happen to be me.


47 posted on 07/28/2016 9:54:17 PM PDT by Pelham (Best.Election.Ever)
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To: Pelham
Boy, that’s a real convincing argument for your position.

Look, why don't you give it a little though on your own? Goedel's theorem is a a statement about arithmetic. Not even that, but a formalization of arithmetic. It hasn't even been convincingly demonstrated that this formal arithmetic is equivalent to the "arithmetic" that mathematicians study anyway.

If you want to say that lots of things can't be proved in math or are very hard to prove, or require some techniques for which formal methods are useless, just say so. Although even that has pretty much zero relevance to whatever point you are making regarding faith and reason.

But leave Goedel's theorem out of this, it continues to be run through the mud in every sort of debate for which it is utterly irrelevant about a thousand times a day on the internet. Do we need more?

48 posted on 07/29/2016 7:19:35 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (Nuke Saudi Arabia now)
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