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To: Pelham
Boy, that’s a real convincing argument for your position.

Look, why don't you give it a little though on your own? Goedel's theorem is a a statement about arithmetic. Not even that, but a formalization of arithmetic. It hasn't even been convincingly demonstrated that this formal arithmetic is equivalent to the "arithmetic" that mathematicians study anyway.

If you want to say that lots of things can't be proved in math or are very hard to prove, or require some techniques for which formal methods are useless, just say so. Although even that has pretty much zero relevance to whatever point you are making regarding faith and reason.

But leave Goedel's theorem out of this, it continues to be run through the mud in every sort of debate for which it is utterly irrelevant about a thousand times a day on the internet. Do we need more?

48 posted on 07/29/2016 7:19:35 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (Nuke Saudi Arabia now)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

“Look, why don’t you give it a little though on your own? Goedel’s theorem is a a statement about arithmetic. “

There is no point in pursuing the issue with you because you obviously have no knowledge of epistemology and the philosophical implications of Goedel’s theorem, which is why you think Goedel is only about arithmetic.

Jaki had a PhD in philosophy as well as physics which is why he could write extensively on aspects of Goedel that you don’t even know exist. Or apparently believe are threatening since you repeatedly insist that it not even be discussed. Nothing is as convincing as demanding that a subject be stifled because you don’t approve of it. Good luck with that campaign.


49 posted on 07/29/2016 7:47:21 AM PDT by Pelham (Best.Election.Ever)
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